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Surgeon, Anaesthetist Move NCDRC after State Commission Holds them Guilty of Medical Negligence and Slaps Rs 33.7 lakh compensation

New Delhi: Two doctors have approached the National Consumer Disputes Redressal Commission (NCDRC) after being held guilty by Gujarat State Consumer Court for medical negligence while conducting laparoscopic surgery on a patient, who died afterwards. The top consumer court in New Delhi admitted the appeal on Thursday. 

Gynecologist and laparoscopic surgeon Dr. Kalpana Bhatt and the Anaesthetist Dr. Rakesh Doshi have challenged the March order by the State Commission, which had directed the doctors to pay Rs 33,70,000 as compensation to the patients.

Medical Dialogues had earlier reported about the case that goes back to 2014, the patient had been suffering from abdominal pain and for this she had consulted Dr Bhatt. After examination, a tumor was discovered and the doctor had advised removal of tumor through laparoscopy.

On January 2, 2015, the operation was conducted and the condition of the patient became serious during the operation. The complainant, husband of the patient was informed that the patient had suffered shock during the procedure and it caused serious problems to her heart and lungs requiring shifting of the patient to the Critical Care Unit.

It was alleged that during procedure, patient had become unconscious and was requiring support of ventilator. Finally, the doctors advised shifting the patient to Sterling Hospital at Rajkot. During all the efforts, the patient died the next day.

Also Read:Death due to CO2 embolism during Laparoscopy procedure: Surgeon, Anesthetist ordered to pay Rs 33 lakh compensation

The discharge summary issued by Surgeon showed that there was anesthetic problem during the procedure and as a result of it, the patient went into shock. The Complainant alleged that when the patient had encountered problem during surgery, she should have been transferred to Critical Care Unit immediately. However, the doctors killed time in trying through general surgery. Alleging gross negligence against the treating doctors, the Complainant approached the State Consumer Court and filed a complaint seeking compensation.

On the other hand, the doctors denied negligence on their part and submitted that all pre-operative and post-operative checklist had been followed and after obtaining informed consent, the patient had been treated as per standard medical practice.

The surgeon submitted that the patient had developed pulmonary edema when the tumor was removed from bed through laparoscopic procedure, which is a known "complication" in laparoscopic surgery. Despite giving best possible treatment and medical assistance, the patient could not be saved.

Further, the doctor informed the State Commission that the patient had tumor in the broad ligament of uterus and to confirm it Color Doppler was also done and the report revealed that the tumor was non-cancerous. However, since it was painful to the patient, it was decided to remove the same. 

The doctors also submitted that live demonstration of surgical procedure was arranged so that relatives can see the entire procedure even outside the theatre. However, just after the tumor was dissected out of bed, patient developed pulmonary edema. It was argued by the doctors that when known complication occurs, Surgeon cannot be made liable.

While considering the matter, the State Commission opined

"Ordinarily, it is the complainant who has to prove his case of negligence with all evidences. But the facts mentioned herein above categorically suggest that incidence has taken place inside the operation theatre where complainant cannot have any access. In these circumstances, the explanation as to happening of events inside the theatre must come from the persons who are in possession of personal knowledge as to facts. It can be seen from the overall view of the facts that at relevant point of time (i.e. during surgery) only surgeon and anesthetist were in charge of treatment apart from the assisting staff."

Referring to the Discharge Summary given by the Surgeon, the State Consumer Court noted that "severe Pulmonary edema took place" immediately after the tumor was removed from the bed. The Discharge Summary further categorically mentioned that the surgeon was informed prior to removal of the tumor that the patient had developed ETCO2 level and she was requested to stop surgery.

At this outset, the bench observed, "Dr. Doshi, in his reply said that when he saw an increased level of ETCO2, he had requested he Surgeon to stop surgery. Thus, facts that can be said proved is problem of ETCO2 observed first and as a result thereof “Pulmonary edema” took place. Unless it is shown that increase of ETCO2 has any direct nexus with removal of the tumor from bed, it cannot be said pulmonary edema had taken place because of known complication. If increase of ETCO2 is not treated timely, it leads to Pulmonary edema as it mentioned in the medical literature which will be discussed herein after. It is in this circumstance, “Pulmonary Edema” caused to patient not because complication of laparoscopy surgery but because of no timely treatment to ETCO2 which is an independent cause. Thus, anesthetist is duty bound to give a plausible explanation for the occurrence of increase of the ETCO2 level and timely treatment for the same."

The State Consumer Court also referred to study material titled “ Carbon Dioxide Embolisms during Laparoscopic Surgery”, which opines that "Anesthesia providers play a crucial role in prompt recognition and treatment of carbon dioxide embolisms to provide life-saving measures to patients undergoing laparoscopic surgery. Communication between the anesthesia provider and the surgeon is an important step providing prompt, efficient, and safe interventions to adequately resuscitate a patient suffering from a carbon dioxide embolism. If left unrecognized and untreated, carbon dioxide emboli can have devastating effects, including death."

Discussing the role of the anesthetist, the commission observed that Dr. Doshi stated in his reply that “during intra-operative period, patient developed Hypertension which was controlled with Inj. Nitroglycerine infusion at the rate of 5 microgram / minute as continuous IV infusion. Then patient’s BP came to 130/84 mm of hg. After enucleating suddenly patient developed Hypercapnia and ventilator settings suggestive of high inspiratory pressure so the surgeon was asked to stop surgery and remove the Pneumoperitonium so CO2 insufflations stopped.”

"All these admissions on the part of opponents suggest that CO2 embolism had taken place is also established. As it mentioned in the aforesaid literature, CO2 embolism starts with beginning when procedure starts with placement of veress needle. It is therefore necessary for the Surgeon and Anesthetist to prove on record that before entering the veress needle all reasonable care and caution was taken regarding confirmation of site where it was to put. To prove this fact there is no evidence except bare statements that they followed standard line of treatment. Obviously, these facts were only within the personal knowledge of the opponents and despite that none of them has proved it through corroboration that they have taken such care. Thus, the opponents have failed to adduce best available evidence to discharge their burden," the Commission observed at this outset.

"Merely because “known complication” has taken place, it cannot be said responsibility of the treating doctors ceases. There are ways and measures to meet with eventual condition but doctor must come with true facts that these steps have been taken and despite that this has happened. Surprisingly, none of the opponents have produced on record any of their case papers," it further noted.

"The anesthetist, in his reply narrated facts but to support those facts, no documents have been produced. Being anesthetist, he is supposed to prepare a note regarding the actions taken during surgery. However, no such anesthetist’s note have been produced on record and therefore presumption also can be drawn that note is suppressed for the reasons best known to them," the Commission observed.

The State Consumer Court further noted that Carbon Dioxide Embolism is subject matter of anesthetist to take care of. However, there was nothing on record to give complete accounts of events from the anesthetist. 

"In absence of any such information it cannot be believed that he acted diligently just because he states on oath. Having accepted the patient for treatment, it is for the doctor to explain what preventive actions have been taken using reasonable “foresights” to minimize the effects of the known complications. The above literature also canvassed that presence of another anesthesia provider in the room all times to encounter Carbon Dioxide Embolism. In the instant case, no other anesthetist was present. Therefore this is a fit case, where presumptions can be made for absence of care on the part of doctors applying the aforesaid rule of “Res Ipsa Loquitur”," the State Consumer Court opined.

Holding the surgeon and the anaesthetist guilty of medical negligence, the Commission had observed,

"Thus, the doctors failed to convince this Commission that diligent efforts have been made during treatment and therefore I have no hesitation in holding that Surgeon and Anesthetist are liable for not providing efficient services to the patient Joshnaben. Their action lead to irreversible condition of patient and died on next day suggests that it is direct nexus with the cause of death of patient."

With this observation, the top consumer court directed the doctors to pay Rs 33,70,000 compensation to the Complainant along with interest at the rate of 10% from the date of complaint in 2015.

As per the latest media report by Indian Express, now the doctors have challenged the order before the NCDRC bench, which has admitted their appeal on Thursday. In their appeal, the doctors have submitted that the State Commission erred in holding them guilty of medical negligence.

They claimed that the State Consumer Court had passed the order "only on sympathy grounds" and also submitted that the State Commission have no expertise in the field of medical science and the Commission should have appointed a panel of medical experts to provide assistance to the Commission to arrive at a conclusion. The doctors argued that if such a panel had been formed, they would have been exonerated from the charges of medical negligence.

Further, the doctors have submitted that the State Commission did not consider that “a complication by itself does not constitute negligence” and also the fact that there is a “big difference between an adverse or untoward event and negligence”, and that there’s a “growing tendency to accuse the doctor of an adverse or untoward event”.

“A medical professional cannot be held liable simply because things went wrong from mischance or misfortune,” stated the appeal.

In their plea, the doctors have further relied on medical literature suggesting that there is risk associated with laparoscopic surgery and acute pulmonary edema after carbon dioxide embolism during Laparoscopic Ovarian Cystectomy as was the case with the deceased patient, who ultimately died.

While commenting on the doctors' appeal before the Apex Consumer Court, their counsel Advocate Nimit Shukla added that the appeal will now be heard on merits.

To read the State Commission's order, click on the link below:

https://medicaldialogues.in/pdf_upload/state-consumer-court-order-209664.pdf

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Use of low-dose atropine eyedrops may not arrest myopia progression

China: In a study published in Graefe's Archive for Clinical and Experimental Ophthalmology, entitled "Effect of low-dose atropine eyedrops on pupil metrics: results after half a year of treatment and cessation" by Wei-Ling Bai and colleagues, researchers have found that pupil size and the constriction ratio return to pre-atropine levels after cessation.

A once-nightly dose of 0.01% atropine eyedrops increased pupil diameter and decreased constriction ratio but did not influence the Pupillary Light Reflex or PLR.

Low-concentration atropine eyedrops are used for myopia treatment. The effects for controlling myopia development could be better with a higher concentration of atropine eyedrops but with a risk of adverse effects and a more obvious rebound after drug cessation. However, there needs to be more data on ideal atropine concentration.

Researchers evaluated the effect of low-dose atropine eyedrops on pupil metrics in mainland China's double-masked, placebo-controlled, and crossover trial.

In phase 1, subjects received 0.01% atropine or placebo once nightly. After one year, the atropine group switched to placebo (atropine-placebo group), and the placebo group switched to atropine (placebo-atropine group).

Researchers measured ocular parameters at the crossover time point (12th month) and the 18th month.

The results of the study are:

  • One hundred five subjects completed the study.
  • The atropine-placebo and placebo-atropine groups had 48 and 57 children, respectively.
  • There was a decrease in the photopic pupil diameter (PD) and mesopic PD and an increase in constriction ratio (CR, %) than values at the crossover time point of the atropine-placebo group (after cessation).
  • There was no difference in pupil metrics of the atropine-placebo group from the values at the crossover time point of the placebo-atropine group.
  • There was an increase in the photopic PD, and the mesopic PD increased and decreased in the CR after six months of treatment, compared with values at the crossover time point of the placebo-atropine group.
  • During 0.01% atropine treatment, pupil metrics and myopia progression had no association.

They concluded that Pupil metrics and the CR could return to pre-atropine levels following cessation. During treatment, Pupil metrics had no significant effect on myopia progression.

The study's limitations were the lack of baseline measurement of pupil metrics for the atropine-placebo group before atropine treatment, failure to measure the pupil metrics at the beginning of the first year and higher drop-out rate.

Further research is warranted for analysing different atropine concentrations and longer follow-ups in validating the specific long-term effects of atropine on pupil metrics.

Further reading:

Bai, WL., Gan, JH., Wei, S. et al. Effect of low-dose atropine eyedrops on pupil metrics: results after half a year of treatment and cessation. Graefes Arch Clin Exp Ophthalmol 261, 1177–1186 (2023). https://doi.org/10.1007/s00417-022-05863-8

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Nurses recognised on International Nurses Day

“Several nurses attached to the Princess Royal Hospital and clinics were presented with certificates for their service”

View the full post Nurses recognised on International Nurses Day on NOW Grenada.

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Health – Dominican Today

Government promotes modification to the Sports Law to protect the health of young athletes

Santo Domingo.- Benny Metz, the Vice Minister of Relations with Civil Society, has stated that the government is actively promoting the amendment of the Sports Law and the development of a legislative compendium aimed at safeguarding the health of children and young athletes.

Santo Domingo.- Benny Metz, the Vice Minister of Relations with Civil Society, has stated that the government is actively promoting the amendment of the Sports Law and the development of a legislative compendium aimed at safeguarding the health of children and young athletes.

Metz emphasized the need to update the Sports Law, which currently dates back to 2005 and is considered outdated. He asserted that the law should serve as the fundamental legal framework, providing general regulations that would subsequently lead to specific regulations for different sports and criminal offenses. The proposed amendments aim to address the evolving needs and challenges faced by athletes, particularly in relation to health and well-being.

These statements come in response to concerns raised by specialists regarding cases of acute renal failure in adolescents associated with the misuse of steroids. Metz characterized such behavior as voluntary homicide, stressing that the use of steroids without proper medical guidance or prescription is a serious offense.

To tackle this issue, the government is seeking to amend the existing Sports Law and establish a collaborative platform involving the Ministry of Public Health and the National Drug Council (CND). This platform aims to provide the necessary support to the Office of the Attorney General of the Republic, enabling them to effectively fulfill their role as legal prosecutors.

Metz further disclosed that several specific cases related to steroid misuse have already been reported to the Attorney General (Miriam Germán), and investigations are set to commence. The government is committed to addressing these cases and taking appropriate legal action to ensure accountability and protect the health and well-being of young athletes.

The proposed amendments to the Sports Law, along with the collaborative efforts of relevant institutions, reflect the government’s commitment to safeguarding the physical and mental well-being of children and young athletes in the Dominican Republic.

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STAT+: Pharmalittle: U.S. Senate committee passes PBM bills; Pfizer CEO predicts pharma will sue over Medicare price negotiations

And so, another working week will soon draw to a close. Not a moment too soon, yes? This is, you may recall, our treasured signal to daydream about weekend plans. Our agenda will focus largely on Mrs. Pharmalot as she turns another page on the calendar and also on fostering a potential mascot — wish us luck. And of course, we hope to squeeze in another listening party.

The rotation will likely include this, this, this and this. And what about you? Once again, this is a wonderful time to enjoy the great outdoors — beaches, woods, and lakes are beckoning. Or you could putter about your castle — a little spring cleaning is a good thing. And if mom is around, remember to say hi. Well, whatever you do, have a grand time. But be safe. Enjoy, and see you soon. …

The U.S. Senate health committee passed a package of bills aimed at speeding generic drug competition and reining in pharmacy benefit managers, but it failed to pass an ambitious reform despite strong bipartisan support, STAT explains. The committee passed, 18 to 3, a bill that would ban pharmacy benefit managers from using spread pricing. The bill would also require that pharmacy benefit managers disclose rebates, fees, and other payments they receive and pass them on to the insurers for whom they negotiate the concessions. Lawmakers did not vote on a bill that would ban pharmacy benefit managers from charging administrative fees based on a percentage of a drug’s list price.

Pfizer chief executive officer Albert Bourla indicated that pharmaceutical companies will likely take legal action against Medicare drug price negotiations, CNBC tells us. Bourla referred to a provision in the Inflation Reduction Act that will allow the Medicare program to negotiate prices on the costliest prescription drugs each year. Bourla called the plan “negotiation with a gun to your head.” The first negotiations start in September and new prices will go into effect in 2026. He said the most “certain way” to stop negotiations would be to call on Congress to introduce legislation that will revise the plan, but noted he is “not optimistic” about that happening.

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Health – Dominican Today

Specialist doctors from Santiago warn of high risk of vape use by young adults

Santiago.- Experts consulted by Listin Diario have issued warnings about the greater harm caused by electronic cigarettes, or vapes, specifically on the bodies and behavior of young people compared to traditional cigarettes.

Santiago.- Experts consulted by Listin Diario have issued warnings about the greater harm caused by electronic cigarettes, or vapes, specifically on the bodies and behavior of young people compared to traditional cigarettes. In Santiago, where these devices have become increasingly prevalent among students, concerns have been raised regarding the potential risks associated with their widespread use. Pulmonologist Benjamín Hernández has even gone so far as to state that vapes are causing more damage than conventional cigarettes. Similarly, Dr. Samuel Ramos has highlighted that vaping can lead to brain immaturity, an increased risk of addiction, and changes in neurons among adolescents.

Dr. Ramos, the President of the Dominican Foundation for Obesity and Cardiovascular Prevention, has expressed concerns about the composition of vapes, which not only contain tobacco but also perfumes, glycerin, flavorings, and other substances that could have long-term cancer risks. He explains that nicotine, like any other drug, has a higher chance of causing addiction and long-term damage to brain cells in adolescents. Furthermore, young people are particularly susceptible to respiratory system damage due to their underdeveloped lungs, making them more prone to developing asthma at an early age or experiencing complications from pre-existing respiratory conditions.

Dr. Ramos emphasizes that autopsies have revealed short- and medium-term damage resulting from the accumulation of substances associated with vaping. Hernández adds that the continuous use of e-cigarettes can trigger bronchospasms, pulmonary infections, and significant damage to the pulmonary system. The constant exposure to these devices can also cause a crisis in bronchospasm and lead to inflammatory processes in the lungs, as well as the potential for extensive destruction of the pulmonary system.

Dr. Ramos further explains that not only individuals who vape themselves but also those who are exposed to secondhand vapor are at risk. He describes the aerosol produced by vaping as harmful, and even children can be affected by it to a lesser degree. He emphasizes that the consequences of widespread vaping among young people will extend beyond the immediate health impacts, potentially leading to a rise in hospitalizations, complications, intensive care admissions, intubations, and even deaths in cases of influenza, pneumonia, and other lung diseases.

The specialist warns that it is essential to address the issue promptly rather than waiting for the next pandemic to realize the increased risks faced by young individuals. Recognizing the higher likelihood of complications from lung diseases among this demographic, Dr. Ramos calls for preventative measures and proactive management to safeguard the health and well-being of young people.

 

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Jamaica Observer

Men still shunning prostate tests

Despite efforts to subsidise the cost for the Prostate Specific Antigen (PSA) diagnostic test, acting executive director of the Jamaica Cancer Society Michael Leslie not many men are getting tested.

The Government announced last year that the PSA test would now be covered under the National Health Fund's (NHF) Individual Benefits Programme, where males over 40 years who are enrolled on the NHF can now access the test.

The subsidy on the PSA tests is set at $1,600 per test with a maximum allowance of one test per year.

Speaking at the Jamaica Observer Monday Exchange, Leslie said even though he is not seeing an increase in the number of males coming to the Cancer Society for the PSA test, he hopes they are getting assessed elsewhere at other medical institutions.

"We are not seeing the men yet. I encourage our men to really come and get your prostrate tests done. Not just at the Jamaica Cancer Society but other medical facilities," he said.

Prostrate is the leading cancer in Jamaica," Leslie told Observer editors and journalists.

"That [subsidy] is one of the initiatives that the Ministry of Health and Wellness has put in place to encourage men to come out and get screened. Probably it's too early to say yet, but we are hoping that this initiative by the ministry will actually encourage men to come forward and get their prostate tested," he added.

Jamaica Health and Lifestyle Survey 2016/2017 data showed that 28.2 per cent of Jamaican men 40 years and older had ever done a digital rectal examination (DRE) to check on their prostate.

Leslie stressed that there needs to be more public education to encourage Jamaican men to check their prostate.

"We all know that the prostate screening involves two phases — blood test which is easy and the DRE exam which involves the urologist feeling the actual prostate which cannot be touched without going through the anus and our Jamaican men have a stigma against that," he said.

"Our job is difficult because we need to be educating the men that it is a small test, small touch. We are trying our utmost best in different means to educate our men that if you can detect prostate cancer early with that small touch, it could save you millions of dollars; if you don't do it and you're diagnosed with prostate cancer, the cost for treatment is a lot of money," he said.

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AbbVie has filed a lawsuit against a behind-the-scenes company that helps health plan sponsors take advantage of the assistance programs created by drug companies to provide specialty medicines to patients for free.

At issue is a maneuver called alternative funding, which a growing number of drugmakers contend exploits their charitable programs. Basically, a plan sponsor excludes certain expensive drugs from coverage and taps an outside vendor to help patients obtain the medicines for free from patient assistance programs run by drug makers or foundations.

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The Crisis Is Officially Ending, but Covid Confusion Lives On

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Julie Rovner is chief Washington correspondent and host of KFF Health News’ weekly health policy news podcast, “What the Health?” A noted expert on health policy issues, Julie is the author of the critically praised reference book “Health Care Politics and Policy A to Z,” now in its third edition.

The formal end May 11 of the national public health emergency for covid-19 will usher in lots of changes in the way Americans get vaccines, treatment, and testing for the coronavirus. It will also change the way some people get their health insurance, with millions likely to lose coverage altogether.

Meanwhile, two FDA advisory committees voted unanimously this week to allow the over-the-counter sale of a specific birth control pill. Advocates of making the pill easier to get say it could remove significant barriers to the use of effective contraception and prevent thousands of unplanned pregnancies every year. The FDA, however, must still formally approve the change, and some of its staff scientists have expressed concerns about whether teenagers and low-literacy adults will be able to follow the directions without the direct involvement of a medical professional.

This week’s panelists are Julie Rovner of KFF Health News, Joanne Kenen of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and Politico, Tami Luhby of CNN, and Margot Sanger-Katz of The New York Times.

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Among the takeaways from this week’s episode:

  • The formal public health emergency may be over, but covid definitely is not. More than 1,000 people in the United States died of the virus between April 19 and April 26, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. While most Americans have put covid in their rearview mirrors, it remains a risk around the country.
  • The Senate Finance Committee held a hearing on “ghost networks,” lists of health professionals distributed by insurance companies who are not taking new patients or are not actually in the insurance company’s network. Ghost networks are a particular problem in mental health care, where few providers take health insurance at all.
  • Another trend in the business of health care is primary care practices being bought by hospitals, insurance companies, and even Amazon. This strategy was popular in the 1990s, as health systems sought to “vertically integrate.” But now the larger entities may have other reasons for having their own networks of doctors, including using their patients to create revenue streams.
  • Court battles continue over the fate of the abortion pill mifepristone, as a federal appeals court in New Orleans prepares to hear arguments about a lower-court judge’s ruling that would effectively cancel the drug’s approval by the FDA. In West Virginia, the maker of the generic version of the drug is challenging the right of the state to ban medication approved by federal officials. At the same time, a group of independent abortion clinics from various states is suing the FDA to drop restrictions on how mifepristone can be prescribed, joining mostly Democratic-led states seeking to ensure access to the drug.

Plus for “extra credit” the panelists suggest health policy stories they read this week that they think you should read, too:

Julie Rovner: Slate’s “Not Every Man Will Be as Dumb as Marcus Silva,” by Moira Donegan and Mark Joseph Stern.

Joanne Kenen: The Baltimore Banner’s “Baltimore Isn’t Accessible for People With Disabilities. Fixing It Would Cost Over $650 Million,” by Hallie Miller and Adam Willis.

Tami Luhby: CNN’s “Because of Florida Abortion Laws, She Carried Her Baby to Term Knowing He Would Die,” by Elizabeth Cohen, Carma Hassan, and Amanda Musa.

Margot Sanger-Katz: The New Yorker’s “The Problem With Planned Parenthood,” by Eyal Press.

Also mentioned in this week’s episode:

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Transcript: The Crisis Is Officially Ending, but Covid Confusion Lives On

[Editor’s note: This transcript, generated using transcription software, has been edited for style and clarity.]

Julie Rovner: Hello and welcome back to “What the Health?” I’m Julie Rovner, chief Washington correspondent at KFF Health News. And I’m joined by some of the best and smartest health reporters in Washington. We are taping this week on Thursday, May 11, at 10:30 a.m. As always, news happens fast and things might have changed by the time you hear this. So here we go. We are joined today via video conference by Tami Luhby, of CNN.

Tami Luhby: Hello.

Rovner: Margot Sanger Katz, The New York Times.

Sanger-Katz: Good morning.

Rovner: And Joanne Kenen, of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and Politico.

Joanne Kenen: Hi, everybody.

Rovner: So the news on the debt ceiling standoff, just so you know, is that there is no news. Congressional leaders and White House officials are meeting again on Friday, and we still expect to not see this settled until the last possible minute. But there was plenty of other health news. We will start with the official end of the U.S. public health emergency for covid. We have talked at some length about the Medicaid unwinding that’s now happening and a potential to end some telehealth service reimbursement. But there’s a lot more that’s going away after May 11. Tami, you’ve been working to compile everything that’s about to change. What are the high points here?

Luhby: Well, there are a lot of changes depending on what type of insurance you have and whether we’re talking about testing, treatment, or vaccines. So I can give you a quick rundown. We wrote a visual story on this today. If you go to CNN.com, you’ll find it on the homepage right now.

Rovner: I will link to it in the show notes for the podcast.

Luhby: Basically, many people will be paying more for treatments and for tests. However, vaccines will generally remain free for almost everyone. And basically, if you look at our story, you’ll see the color-coded guide as to how it may impact you. But basically, testing — at-home tests are no longer guaranteed to be free. So if you’ve been going to your CVS or somewhere else to pick up your eight tests a month, your insurer may opt to continue providing it for free, but I don’t think many will. And then for lab tests, again, it really depends. But if you have Medicaid, all tests will be free through 2024. However, if you have private insurance or Medicare, you will probably have to start paying out-of-pocket for tests that are ordered by your provider. Those deductibles, those pesky deductibles, and copays or coinsurance will start kicking in again. And for treatments, it’s a little bit different again. The cost will vary by treatment if you have Medicare or private insurance. However, Paxlovid and treatments that are purchased by the federal government, such as Paxlovid, will be free as long as supplies last. Now, also, if you’re uninsured, there is a whole different situation. It’ll be somewhat more difficult for them. But there are still options. And, you know, the White House has been working to provide free treatments and vaccines for them.

Rovner: So if you get covid, get it soon.

Luhby: Like today. Right, exactly. Yeah, but with vaccines, even though, again, they’re free as long as the federal supplies last — but because of the Affordable Care Act, the CARES Act, and the Inflation Reduction Act, people with private insurance, Medicare, and Medicaid will actually continue to be able to get free vaccines after the federal supplies run out.

Rovner: After May 11.

Luhby: It’s very confusing.

Rovner: It is very confusing. That’s why you did a whole graphic. Joanne, you wanted to add something.

Kenen: And the confusion is the problem. We have lots of problems, but, like, last week, we talked a little bit about this. You know, are we still in an emergency? We’re not in an emergency the way we were in 2020, 2021, but it’s not gone. We all know it’s much, much better, but it’s not gone. And it could get worse again, particularly if people are confused, if people don’t know how to test, if people don’t know that they can still get things. The four of us are professionals, and, like, Tami’s having to read this complicated color-coded chart — you know, you get this until September 2024, but this goes away in 2023. And, you know, if you have purple insurance, you get this. And if you have purple polka-dotted insurance, you get that. And the lack of clarity is dangerous, because if people don’t get what they’re eligible for because they hear “emergency over, everything — nothing’s free anymore” — we’re already having trouble with uptake. We don’t have enough people getting boosters. People don’t know that they can get Paxlovid and that it’s free and that it works. We are still in this very inadequate response. We’re not in the terrifying emergency of three years ago, but it’s not copacetic. You know, it’s not perfect. And this confusion is really part of what really worries me the most. And the people who are most likely to be hurt are the people who are always most likely to be hurt: the people who are poor, the people who are in underserved communities, the people who are less educated, and it’s disproportionately people in minority communities. We’ve seen this show before, and that’s part of what I worry about — that there’s a data issue that we’ll get to whenever Julie decides to get to it, right?

Rovner: Yeah, I mean, and that’s the thing. With so much of the emergency going away, we’re not really going to know as much as we have before.

Sanger-Katz: In some ways, how you feel about this transition really reflects how you feel about the way that our health care system works in general. You know, what happened for covid is —and I’m oversimplifying a little bit — is we sort of set up a single-payer system just for one disease. So everyone had access to all of the vaccines, everyone had access to all of the tests, everyone had access to all of the treatments basically for free. And we also created this huge expansion of Medicaid coverage by no longer allowing the states to kick people out if they no longer seem to be eligible. So we had the kind of system that I think a lot of people on the left would like to see, not just for one disease but for every disease, where you have kind of more universal coverage and where the cost of obtaining important treatments and prevention is zero to very low. And this is definitely going to be a bumpy transition, but it’s basically a transition to the way our health care system works for every other disease. So if you are someone who had some other kind of infectious disease or a chronic disease like cancer, rheumatoid arthritis, whatever, you’ve been sort of dealing with all of this stuff the whole time — that you have to pay for your drugs; that, you know, that testing is expensive; that it’s confusing where you get things; that, you know, there’s a lot of complexity and hoops you have to jump through; that a lot depends on what kind of insurance you have; that what kind of insurance you can get depends on your income and other demographic characteristics. And so I find this transition to be pretty interesting because it seems like it would be weird for the United States to just forever have one system for this disease and another system for every other disease. And of course, we do have this for people who are experiencing kidney disease: They get Medicare, they get the government system, regardless of whether they would otherwise be eligible for Medicare.

Rovner: We should point out that Congress did that in 1972. They haven’t really done it since.

Kenen: And when it was much more rare than it was today.

Rovner: And when people didn’t live very long with it mostly.

Kenen: We didn’t have as much diabetes either.

Sanger-Katz: But anyway, I just think this transition kind of just gives us a moment to reflect on, How does the system work in general? How do we feel about how the system works in general? Are these things good or bad? And I agree with everything that Joanne said, that the confusion around this is going to have public health impacts as relates to covid. But we have lots of other diseases where we just basically have the standard system, and now we’re going to have the standard system for covid, too.

Kenen: You could have gone to the hospital with the bad pneumonia and needed oxygen, needed a ventilator, and when they tested you, if you had covid, it was all free. And if you had, you know, regular old-fashioned pneumonia, you got a bill. I agree with everything Margot said, but it’s even that silly. You could have had the same symptoms in your same lungs and you had two different health care systems and financing systems. None of us have ever thought anything made sense.

Rovner: Yes, well, I actually —

Kenen: That’s why we have a podcast. Otherwise, you know —

Sanger-Katz: And also the way that the drugs and vaccines were developed was also totally different, right? With the government deeply involved in the technology and development, you know, funding the research, purchasing large quantities of these drugs in bulk in advance. I mean, this is just not the way that our system really works for other diseases. It’s been a very interesting sort of experiment, and I do wonder whether it will be replicated in the future.

Luhby: Right. But it was also clear that this is not the beginning of the pushback. I mean, Congress has not wanted to allocate more money, you know, and there’s been a lot of arguments and conflicts over the whole course of this so-called single-payer system, or this more flexible system. So the U.S.’ approach to health care has been pushing its way in for many months.

Rovner: I naively, at the beginning of the pandemic, when we first did this and when the Republicans all voted for it, it’s like, let’s have the federal government pay the hospitals for whatever care they’re providing and make everything free at point of service to the patient — and I thought, Wow, are we going to get used to this and maybe move on? And I think the answer is exactly the opposite. It’s like, let’s get rid of it as fast as we possibly can.

Kenen: There’s money that the government has put in. I believe it is $5 billion into the next generation of vaccines and treatments, because the vaccine we have has certainly saved many lives. But as we all know, it’s not perfect. You know, it’s preventing death, but not infection. It’s not ending circulation of the disease. So we need something better. This debt ceiling fight, if the people in the government could spend all $5 billion today — like we were joking, if you want to get covid, if you’re going to get covid, get it today — I mean, if they could, they would spend all $5 billion of it today, too, because that could be clawed back. I mean, that’s — it’s going to be part of the coming fight.

Luhby: But the question is, even if they develop it, will anyone take it, or will enough people take it? That’s another issue.

Rovner: Well, since we’re sort of on the subject, I’m going to skip ahead to what I was going to bring up towards the end, which I’m calling “This Week in Our Dysfunctional Health System.”

Kenen: We could call it that way every week.

Rovner: Yes, that’s true. But this is particularly about how our health system doesn’t work. First up is “ghost networks.” Those are where insurers provide lists of health care providers who are not, in fact, available to those patients. A quote “secret shopper survey” by the staff of the Senate Finance Committee found that more than 80% of mental health providers found in insurance directories in 12 plans from six states were unreachable, not accepting new patients, or not actually in network. This is not a new problem. We’ve been hearing about it for years and years. Why does it persist? One would think that you could clean up your provider directory. That would be possible, right?

Kenen: Didn’t they legislate that, though? Didn’t they say a few years ago you have to clean it up? I mean, there are going to be some mistakes because there’s, you know, many, many providers and people will make changes or leave practices or … [unintelligible] …  jobs or whatever. But I thought that they had supposedly, theoretically, taken care of this a couple years ago in one of the annual regulations for ACA or something.

Rovner: They supposedly, theoretically, took care of the hospitals reporting their prices in a way that consumers can understand, too. So we’ve discovered in our dysfunctional health care system that Congress passing legislation or HHS [the Department of Health and Human Services] putting out rules doesn’t necessarily make things so.

Kenen: Really?

Rovner: Yeah. I just — this was one that I had thought, Oh, boy, I have a whole file on that from like the 1990s.

Sanger-Katz: It’s a huge problem, though. I mean —

Rovner: Oh, it is.

Sanger-Katz: You know, we have a system where, for large groups of Americans, you are expected to shop for a health insurance plan. If you’re purchasing a marketplace plan for yourself, if you are purchasing a Medicare Advantage plan when you become eligible for Medicare, and in many cases, if you have a choice of employer plans, you know, you’re supposed to pick the plan that’s best for you. And we have a system that tells people that having those kinds of choices is good and maximizes the benefits to people, to be able to pick the best plan. But for a lot of people, being able to have the doctors and hospitals that they use or to have a choice of a wide range of doctors for various problems, including mental health services, is a huge selling point of one plan versus another. And again, you have these ghost networks, when you have this lack of transparency and accuracy of this information, it just causes people to be unable to make those good choices and it undermines the whole system of market competition that underpins all of this policy design. I think you can argue that there are not a million gazillion people who are actually shopping on the basis of this. But I do think that knowing whether your medical providers are covered when you’re choosing a new health care plan is actually something that a lot of people do look into when they are choosing a health insurance plan. And discovering that a doctor that you’ve been seeing for a long time and whose relationship you really value and whose care has been important to you is suddenly dishonestly represented as a part of an insurance plan that you’ve selected is just, you know, it’s a huge disappointment. It causes huge disruptions in people’s care. And I think the other thing that this study highlighted is that health insurance coverage for mental health services continues to be a very large problem. There has been quite a lot of legislation and regulation trying to expand coverage for mental health care. But there are these kind of lingering problems where a lot of mental health care providers simply don’t accept insurance or don’t accept very many patients who have insurance. And so I think that this report did a good job of highlighting that place where I think these problems are even worse than they are with the health care system at large. It’s just very hard to find mental health care providers who will take your insurance.

Rovner: And I would say, when you’re in mental health distress or you have a relative who’s in mental health distress, the last thing you need is to have to call 200 different providers to find one who can help you.

Kenen: A lot of the ones that are taking insurance are these online companies, and the good thing is that they’re taking insurance and that there may be convenience factors for people, although there’s also privacy and other factors on the downside. But there have been reports about, your data is not private, and I have no idea how you find out which company is a good actor in that department and which company is just selling identifiable data. I mean, I think it was The Washington Post that had a story about that a couple of weeks ago. You know, you click in on something — straight to the data broker. So, yeah, you get insurance coverage, but at a different price.

Rovner: Well, overlaid over all of this is consolidation, this time at the primary care level of health care. Margot, your colleague Reed Abelson had a big story this week on primary care practices being bought up by various larger players in the health care industry, including hospitals, insurance companies, pharmacy chains, and even Amazon. These larger entities say this can act as a move towards more coordinated, value-based care, which is what we say we all want. But there’s also the very real possibility that these giant, vertical, mega medical organizations can just start to name their own price. I mean, this is something that the FTC [Federal Trade Commission] in theory could go after but has been kind of loath to and that Congress could go after but has also been kind of loath to.

Sanger-Katz: Yeah, in some ways we’ve seen this movie before. There was a big wave of primary care acquisitions that happened, I think, in the 1990s by hospitals. And the hospitals learned pretty quickly that primary care doctors are kind of a money-losing proposition, and they divested a lot. But I think what Reed documented so nicely is that the entities that are buying primary care now are more diverse and they have different business strategies. So it’s not just hospitals who are sort of trying to get more patients referred to their higher-profit specialists, but it’s also Medicare Advantage insurers who benefit from being able to tell the primary care doctors to diagnose their patients with lots of diseases that generate profits for the plan, and it’s other kinds of groups that see primary care as kind of the front door to other services that can be revenue-generating. And it’s very — it will be very interesting to see what the effects of these will be and whether these will turn out to be good business decisions for these new entities and of course also whether it will turn out to be good for patient care.

Rovner: Yeah, I remember in the 1990s when hospitals were buying up doctor practices, the doctors ended up hating it because they were asked to work much harder, see patients for a shorter period of time, and some of them actually — because they were now on salary rather than being paid for each patient — were cutting back on, you know, in general, on the amount of care they were providing. And that was what I think ended up with a lot of these hospitals divesting. It didn’t work out the way the hospitals hoped it would. But as you point out, Margot, this is completely different, so we will — we will see how this moves on. All right. Let’s go back a little bit. We’re going to talk about abortion in a minute. But first, something that could prevent a lot of unintended pregnancies: On Wednesday, an advisory committee for the Food and Drug Administration — actually two advisory committees — unanimously recommended that the agency approve an over-the-counter birth control pill. This has been a long time coming here in the U.S., even though pills like these are available without prescription in much of Europe and have been for years. But while the FDA usually follows the recommendations of its advisory committees, we know that some FDA scientists have expressed concerns about over-the-counter availability. So what’s the problem with giving women easier access to something that so many depend on?

Kenen: There are trade-offs. And there are — some of the scientists at the FDA are more conservative than others about, What if the woman doesn’t understand how to take the pill properly? Things like that. I mean, obviously, if we go the over-the-counter route, as other countries are doing, there have to be very simple, easy-to-understand explanations in multiple languages. Pharmacists should be able to explain it like, you know, “You have to take it every day, and you have to take it at approximately the same time every day,” and things like that. So, you know, obviously not taking it right doesn’t protect you as much as taking it right. But there are a lot of people who will be able to get it. You know, getting a prescription is not always the easiest thing in the world. Or if you’re lucky, you just click on something and somebody calls your doctor and gets you a refill. But that doesn’t always work and not everybody has access to that, and you have to still see your doctor sometimes for renewals. So if you’re a working person who doesn’t have sick leave and you have to take time off from work every three months to get a refill or you have to hire child care or you have to take three buses — you know, it takes a whole day, and then you sit in a waiting room at a clinic. I mean, our health system is not patient-friendly.

Rovner: I was going to say, to go back to what Tami was talking about earlier — if pills are available over the counter, it’s going to depend on, you know, what your insurance is like, whether you would get it covered.

Kenen: The cost.

Rovner: That’s right. And it could end up being —

Kenen: But I don’t think the FDA is concerned about that.

Rovner: No, they’re not. That’s not their job.

Kenen: The pill is pretty safe, and these are lower-dose ones than the pills that were invented, you know, 50 years ago. These are lower-dose, safer drugs with fewer side effects. But I mean, there’s concern about the rare side effect, there’s concern about people not knowing how to take it, all that kind of stuff. But Julie just mentioned the cost of coverage is a separate issue because under the ACA it’s covered. And if it becomes over the counter, the mechanism for getting that covered is, at this point, unclear.

Sanger-Katz: But we do have a system now where, for a lot of women, obtaining birth control pills depends on being able to get a doctor’s appointment on a regular basis. I think, you know, this is not standard practice, but I do think that there are a lot of OB-GYNs who basically won’t write you for a birth control pill unless you come in on a regular basis to receive other kinds of health screenings. And I think many of them do that with good intentions because they want to make sure that people are getting Pap smears and other kinds of preventive health services. But on the other hand, it does mean that there are a lot of women who, if they don’t have time or they can’t afford to come in for regular doctor’s appointments, lose access to birth control. And I think over-the-counter pills is one way of counteracting that particular problem.

Rovner: And I think that’s exactly why so many of the medical groups are urging this. During the more than a decade-long fight over making the morning-after pill over the counter, the big hang-up was what to do about minors. Even President Obama, a major backer of women’s reproductive health rights, seemed unhappy at the idea of his then-barely teenage daughters being able to get birth control so easily and without notifying either parent. It seems unimaginable that we’re not going to have that same fight here. I mean, literally, we spent six years trying to figure out what age teens could be to safely buy morning-after pills, which are high doses of basically these birth control pills. I’m actually surprised that we haven’t really seen the minor fight yet.

Kenen: I think everyone’s waiting for somebody else to do it first. I mean, like Julie, I wasn’t expecting to hear more about age limitations, and that’ll probably come up when the FDA acts, because I think the advisory committee just wanted to — they were pretty strong saying, “Yeah, make this OTC.”

Sanger-Katz: I also think the politics around emergency contraception are a little bit different because I think that, while physicians understand that those pills are basically just high-dose birth control pills and that they work in just the same way as typical contraception, I think there’s a perception among many members of the public that because you can take them after unprotected sex, that they might be something closer to an abortion. Now, that is not true, but because I think that is a common misperception, it does lead to more discomfort around the availability of those pills, whereas birth control pills — while I think there are some people who object to their wide dissemination and certainly some who are concerned about them in the hands of children, I think they are more broadly accepted in our society.

Rovner: We obviously are going to see, and we’ll probably see fairly soon. We’re expecting, I guess, a decision from the FDA this summer, although with the morning-after pill we expected a decision from FDA that lingered on for many months, in some cases many years.

Kenen: And I think it’s at least hypothetically possible that states will not do what the FDA says. Say the FDA says they can be over the counter with no age limitations. I can see that becoming a fight in conservative states. I mean, I don’t know exactly the mechanism for how that would fall, but I could certainly think that somebody is going to dream up a mechanism so that a 12-year-old can’t get this over the counter.

Rovner: I want to move to abortion because first up is the continuing question over the fate of the abortion pill, which we get to say at this point: not the same as the emergency contraceptive pill, which, as Margot said, is just high-dosage regular birth control pills. Needless to say, that’s the one that we’re having the current court action over. And there was even more action this week, although not from that original case, which will be heard by the Court of Appeals later in this month. In West Virginia, a judge declined to throw out a case brought by GenBioPro. They are the maker of the generic version of mifepristone, the abortion pill. That generic, which accounts for more than half the market, would be rendered unapproved even under the compromise position of the Court of Appeals because it was approved after the 2016 cutoff period. Remember, the Court of Appeals said, We don’t want to cancel the approval, but we want to roll it back to the date when FDA started to loosen the restrictions on it. So, in theory, there would be no generic allowed, but that’s actually not even what the West Virginia lawsuit is about; it’s about challenging the state’s total abortion ban as violating the federal supremacy of the FDA over state laws. Joanne, that’s what sort of you were talking about now with contraceptives, too. And this is the big unanswered question: Can states basically overrule the FDA’s approval and the FDA’s approval for even an age limit?

Kenen: Well, I mean, I’m not saying they can, but I am saying that I don’t know where the question will come down. Go back to the regular birth control; I can certainly see conservative states trying to put age limits on it. And I don’t know how that’ll play out legally. But this is a different issue, and this is why the abortion pill lawsuits are not just about the abortion pill. They’re about drug safety and drug regulation in this country. The FDA is the agency we charge with deciding whether drugs are safe and good for human beings, and not the system of politicians and state legislators in 50 different states replacing their judgment. So obviously, it’s more complicated, because it’s abortion, but one of several bottom lines in this case is who gets to decide: the FDA or state legislature.

Rovner: And right: Do states get to overrule what the federal Food and Drug Administration says? Well, I —

Kenen: Remember, some states have had — you know, California’s had stricter regulations on several health things, you know, and that’s been allowed that you could have higher ceilings for various health — you know, carcinogenics and so forth. But they haven’t fundamentally challenged the authority of the FDA.

Rovner: Yet. Well, since confusion is our theme of the week, also this week a group of independent abortion clinics led by Whole Woman’s Health, which operates in several states, filed suit against the FDA, basically trying to add Virginia, Kansas, and Montana to the other 18 states that sued to force FDA to further reduce the agency’s current restrictions on mifepristone. A federal judge in Washington state ruled — the same day that Texas judge did that mifepristone should have its approval removed — judge in Washington said the drug should become even more easily available. In the real world, though, this is just sowing so much confusion that nobody knows what’s allowed and what isn’t, which I think is kind of the point for opponents, right? They just want to make everybody as confused as possible, if they can’t actually ban it.

Sanger-Katz: I think they actually want to ban it. I mean, I think that’s their primary goal. I’m sure there are some that will settle for confusion as a secondary outcome. I think just this whole mess of cases really highlights what a weird moment we are, where we’re having individual judges and individual jurisdictions making determinations about whether or not the FDA can or can’t approve the safety and efficacy of drugs. You know, as Joanne said, we’ve just had a system in this country since the foundation of the FDA where they are the scientific experts and they make determinations and those determinations affect drug availability and legal status around the country. And this is a very unusual situation where we’re seeing federal courts in different jurisdictions making their own judgments about what the FDA should do. And I think the Texas judge that struck down the approval of mifepristone, at least temporarily, has come in for a lot of criticism. But what the judge in Washington state did is sort of a flavor of the same thing. It’s telling the FDA, you know, how they should do their business. And it’s a weird thing.

Rovner: It is. Well, one last thing this week, since we’re talking about confusion, and the public is definitely confused, according to two different polls that are out this week — on the one hand, a Washington Post-ABC News poll found that a full two-thirds of respondents say mifepristone, the abortion pill, should stay on the market, and more than half say they disagree with the Supreme Court’s overturn of Roe v. Wade, including 70% of independents and more than a third of Republicans. Yet, in focus groups in April, more than a third of independents couldn’t differentiate Democrats’ position on abortion from Republicans’. As reported by Vox, one participant said, quote, “I really haven’t basically heard anything about which party is leaning toward it and which one isn’t.” When pressed, she said, “If I had to guess, I would say Democrat would probably be against it and Republican would probably be for it.” Another participant said she thought that Joe Biden helped get the Supreme Court judges who overturned Roe. We really do live in a bubble, don’t we? I think that was sort of the most mind-blowing thing I’ve read since — all the months since Roe got overturned, that there are people who care about this issue who have no idea where anybody stands.

Sanger-Katz: I think it’s just a truth about our political system that there are a lot of Americans who are what the political scientists call low-information voters. These are people who are just not following the news very closely and not following politics very closely. And they may have a certain set of opinions about issues of the day, but I think it is a big challenge to get those people aware of where candidates stand on issues of concern to them and to get them activated. And it doesn’t really surprise me that independent voters are the ones who seem to be confused about where the parties are, because they’re probably the least plugged into politics generally. And so, for Democrats, it does seem like this lack of information is potentially an opportunity for them, because it seems like when you ask voters what they want on abortion, they want things that are more aligned with Democratic politicians’ preferences than Republicans’. And so it strikes me that perhaps some of those people in the focus group who didn’t know who stood for what, maybe those are gettable voters for the Democratic Party. But I think — you know, we’re about to go into a very heated campaign season, you know, as we go into the presidential primaries and then the general election in which there are going to be a lot of ads, a lot of news coverage. And, you know, I think abortion is very likely to be a prominent issue during the campaigns. And I think it is almost certainly going to be a major goal of the Biden presidential reelection campaign to try to make sure that these people know where Biden stands relative to abortion, because it is an issue that so many voters agree with him on.

Rovner: And it makes you see, I mean, there’s a lot of Republicans who are trying to sort of finesse this issue now and say, you know, “Oh, well, we’re going to restrict it, but we’re not going to ban it,” or, “We have all these exceptions” that are, of course, in practice, you can’t use. Obviously, these are the kinds of voters who might be attracted to that. So we will obviously see this as it goes on.

Kenen: But Julie, do you remember whether they were actually voters? Because I had the same reaction to you: like, of all the things to not be sure of, that one was pretty surprising. But we also know that in places like Kansas where, you know, where there are not that many Democrats, these referenda won. Voters have supported abortion rights in the 2022 elections and in these state referenda. So independents must be voting with the —

Rovner: I was going to say, I think if you’re doing —

Kenen: Something isn’t totally — something is not totally adding up there.

Rovner: If you’re doing a focus group for politics, one presumes that you get voters. So, I mean, I think that was — that was the point of the focus group. But yeah, it’s —

Kenen: Or people who say they’re voters.

Rovner: Or people who say they’re voters. That is a different issue. All right. Well, something not that confusing: Now it’s time for our extra credit segment. That’s when we each recommend a story we read this week we think you should read too. As always, don’t worry if you miss it. We will post the links on the podcast page at kffhealthnews.org and in our show notes on your phone or other mobile device. Tami, why don’t you go first this week?

Luhby: OK. Well, I picked a story from CNN by my colleagues on the health team. It’s titled “Because of Florida Abortion Laws, She Carried Her Baby to Term Knowing He Would Die,” by Elizabeth Cohen, Carma Hassan, and Amanda Musa. And I have to say that when I first read this story, I couldn’t get through it, because it was so upsetting. And then when I selected it as an extra credit, I had to read it in full. But it’s about a family in Florida whose son was born without kidneys. They knew that he was going to die. And it’s about all of the effects from everything from, you know, the mother, Deborah Dorbert, on her physically and emotionally. But it also, you know, talked about the family and, you know, the effect on the marriage and the effect — which was just so upsetting — was on the 4-year-old son, who became very attached. I don’t think they even knew — well, it wasn’t a girl. It was actually a boy. But for some reason, this older son felt that it was a girl and just kept saying, like, “My sister is going to do X, Y, Z.” And, you know, how did the parents break it to him? Because he saw that his mother was, you know, pregnant and getting larger. And, you know, it was just figuring out how to break it to him that no baby was coming home. So the details are heart-wrenching. The quotes in the third paragraph: “‘He gasped for air a couple of times when I held him,’ said Dorbert. ‘I watched my child take his first breath, and I held him as he took his last one.’” So, you know, these are things that, you know — and we just talked about how the states are arguing over what exceptions there should be, if any, you know, and these are the stories that the legislators don’t think about when they pass these laws.

Rovner: I think I said this before because we’ve had a story like this almost every week. This one was particularly wrenching. But I think the one thing that all these stories are doing is helping people understand, particularly men, that there are complications in pregnancy, that they’re not that rare, that, you know, that they sort of throw off and say, “Oh, well, that’s, you know, one in a million,” — It’s not one in a million. It’s like one in a thousand. That’s a lot of people. So I mean, that’s why there are a lot of these stories, because there are a lot of pregnancies that don’t go as expected.

Luhby: Right. And it really shows the chilling effect on doctors because, you know, you would say, “Oh, it’s simple: life of the mother or, you know, life of the fetus” or something like that. That seems pretty straightforward, but it isn’t. And these doctors, in cases where, you know, other cases where it is the life of the mother, which seem, again, very straightforward, the doctors are not willing to do anything because they’re afraid.

Rovner: I know. Joanne.

Kenen: This is a story from The Baltimore Banner that has a very long title. It’s by Hallie Miller and Adam Willis, and it’s called “Baltimore Isn’t Accessible for People With Disabilities. Fixing It Would Cost Over $650 Million.” Baltimore is not that big a city. $650 million is a lot of curbs and barriers. And there’s also a lot of gun violence in Baltimore. If you drive around Baltimore, and I work there a few days a week, you see lots of people on walkers and scooters and wheelchairs because many of them are survivors of gun violence. And you see them struggling. And there were quotes from people saying they, you know, were afraid walking near the harbor that they would fall in because there wasn’t a path for them. It is not invisible, but we treat it like it’s invisible. And it’s been many years since the Americans with Disabilities Act was passed, and we still don’t have it right. It’s a — this one isn’t confusion like everything else we talked about today. I loved Margot’s phrase about confusion as a secondary outcome. I think you should write a novel with that title. But it’s — this isn’t confusion. This is just not doing the right thing for people who are — we’re just not protecting or valuing.

Rovner: And I’d say for whom there are laws that this should be happening. Margot.

Sanger-Katz: I had another story about abortion. This one was in The New Yorker, called “The Problem With Planned Parenthood,” by Eyal Press. The story sort of looked at Planned Parenthood, you know, which is kind of the largest abortion provider in the country. It’s — I mean, it’s really a network of providers. They have all these affiliates. They’re often seen as being more monolithic than perhaps they are. But this story argued that people who were operating independent abortion clinics, who do represent a lot of the abortion providers in the country as well, have felt that Planned Parenthood has been too cautious legally, too afraid of running afoul of state laws, and so that has led them to be very conservative and also too conservative from the perspective of business, and that there is a view that Planned Parenthood is not serving the role that it could be by expanding into areas where abortion is less available. I thought it was just interesting to hear these criticisms and hoped to understand that the community of abortion providers are, you know, they’re diverse and they have different perspectives on how abortion access should work and what kinds of services should be provided in different settings. And they also view each other as business competition in some cases. I mean, a lot of the complaints in this article had to do with Planned Parenthood opening clinics near to independent clinics and kind of taking away the business from them, making it harder for them to survive and operate. Anyway, I thought it was a very interesting window into these debates, and it did mesh with some of my reporting experience, particularly around the legal cautiousness. I did a story before the Dobbs decision came down from the Supreme Court where Planned Parenthood in several states had just stopped offering abortions even before the court had ruled, because they anticipated that the court would rule and they just didn’t want to make any mistake about running afoul of these laws such that, you know, women were denied care that was still legal in the days leading up to the Supreme Court decision.

Rovner: Yeah, it’s a really good story. Well, my story is kind of tangentially about abortion. It’s from Slate, and it’s called “Not Every Man Will Be as Dumb as Marcus Silva,” by Moira Donegan and Mark Joseph Stern. And it’s about a case from Texas, of course, that we talked about a couple of weeks ago, where an ex-husband is suing two friends of his ex-wife for wrongful death, for helping her get an abortion. Well, now the two friends have filed a countersuit claiming that the ex-husband knew his wife was going to have an abortion beforehand because he found the pill in her purse and he put it back so that he could use the threat of a lawsuit to force her to stay with him. It feels like a soap opera, except it is happening in real life. And my first thought when I read this is that it’s going to make some great episode of “Dateline” or “20/20.” That is our show, as always.

Kenen: Or, not “The Bachelor.”

Rovner: Yeah, but not “The Bachelor.” That is our show. As always, if you enjoy the podcast, you can subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. We’d appreciate it if you left us a review; that helps other people find us too. Special thanks, as always, to our ever-patient producer, Francis Ying. Also, as always, you can email us your comments or questions. We’re at whatthehealth@kff.org. Or you can tweet me. I’m still there. I’m at @jrovner. Joanne?

Kenen: @JoanneKenen.

Rovner: Tami.

Luhby: @Luhby.

Rovner: Margot.

Sanger-Katz: @sangerkatz.

Rovner: We will be back in your feed next week, hopefully with a little less confusion. Until then, be healthy.

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STAT+: Wyden decries ‘astonishingly low’ tax rates for pharma companies as he probes business maneuvers

Thanks to changes in tax law six years ago, several of the largest pharmaceutical companies saw their tax rates fall substantially, but they also reported that most of their profits were shifted offshore in an effort to avoid paying U.S.

taxes, according to a memo by a U.S. Senate Committee.

Specifically, the average effective tax rate for seven of the biggest drugmakers fell by 40% — dropping to 11.6% in 2020, down from 19.6% in 2016. In 2017, a new law was passed that permanently lowered corporate tax rates from 35% to 21%. Meanwhile, many of the largest pharmaceutical companies reported that 75% of their profits came from overseas.

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Provide Security to all Hospitals to avert Violence Against doctors: Kerala HC directs Police

Ernakulam: While considering the matter concerning violence against doctors, a Division bench of Kerala High Court at a special sitting today directed the State Police chief to evolve sufficient and effective protocols regarding the manner in which persons in custody- be that accused or otherwise- are to be presented in hospitals and before medical professionals as part of the criminal justice

system or such other.

Apart from this, the HC Division bench of Justices Devan Ramachandran and Kauser Edappagath has also directed the SPC to place on record necessary requirements and protocols to ensure that effective security is provided in all hospitals so that any further incidents or attacks can be avoided.

"We remind the SPC, as we have already indited above, that it is the fundamental obligation of the police force, headed by him, to ensure that hospitals and the personnel who man them are adequately and sufficiently protected on a day-to-day basis, for the 24 - hour time frame," the bench observed.

The observation from the HC bench has come when yesterday Dr. Vandana Das was brutally stabbed to death with scissors at a government hospital in Kerala's Kollam district allegedly by a prisoner who was brought to the facility for a medical examination by the Police.

Five others, including the policeman, sustained injuries during the incident. The doctor was immediately taken to a private hospital in Kottarakkara, where she died while undergoing treatment. The incident took place at the government taluk hospital in Kottarakkara, police said.

Yesterday, during an urgent hearing of the matter, the Kerala High Court bench had said that the incident was an outcome of police and government failure and the court had sought a report regarding the incident from the State Police Chief who was also asked to be present virtually when was taken up Thursday morning.

Expressing its shock over the matter, the HC division bench comprising Justice Devan Ramachandran and Justice Kauser Edappagath observed, "We are, like any other right thinking citizen, shocked and distraught by the tragic events and feel helpless for not having been able to ensure that Dr.Vandana Das lived a full life. The least we can do is to place on record our deep felt condolences to the family, friends, relatives, classmates and colleagues of Dr.Vandana Das and assure them that her sacrifice will not be forgotten easily."

Yesterday, the bench also issued several directions in connection with the death of Dr. Vandana. Court had directed to preserve the CCTV visuals of the rooms/places of occurrence of the incident. The bench also directed the Judicial First Class Magistrate-I, Kottarakkara to visit the Taluk Hospital, Kottarakkara and conduct an inspection of the scene of incident and report the same to the court.

"Every order that we have passed in this case, as also the provisions of the aforementioned 'Act', shall apply in its full force and warrant to every Intern, House Surgeon, Post Graduate student and other persons engaged in the Health Science Education, without any reservation; and all our orders shall be implemented in its letter and spirit as far as such sections are also concerned. We, however, leave liberty to Sri.S.Kannan – learned Senior Government Pleader, to seek any modification of this particular direction, if needed in future," the bench had also mentioned.

During the case hearing today, the court noted that the directions have been confirmed since the Senior Government Pleader Sri. S. Kannan said that no modifications were necessary especially because Section 2 of the Kerala Healthcare Service Persons and Healthcare Service Institutions (Prevention of Violence and Damage to Property) Act, 2012, covers medical students, interns, house surgeons and every other person involved in the Health Sciences Education.

Also Read: RIP Dr Vandana Das: Medical fraternity shattered out on streets demanding Doctors Protection Act

While the SPC and ADGP explained the matter concerning the death of Dr. Vandana in detail, the HC bench noted that "...we are not concerned about the same, as much as we are to ensure that no further attacks are caused on any Health-care professional in the future."

The bench was informed that the investigation into the death of Vandana Das is going on and accordingly, the Court directed the SPC to ensure that investigation is carried out in her name faithfully, truthfully and diligently. Responding to this, the SPC assured that every step in that regard will be taken.

Meanwhile, the ADGP confirmed that even though there are protocols with respect to the manner in which accused and other persons in custody of the Police are to be presented before medical professionals or in hospitals, they are not up to the mark at the present time and require modification. 

At this outset, the bench observed,

"As far as the incident in question is concerned, there can be little doubt that the killing of a young doctor by a person who was in custody of the police — be that as an accused or in any other capacity — points at a systemic failure. The Police Officers above were also ad idem that it is the fundamental duty of any officer to guard a citizen, even at the cost of their own lives. The preliminary information that we have, which is gathered from the statements filed on behalf of SPC and others, is that, for some reason, Vandana Das was alone in the observation room at the particular point of time, which opportunity was seized by the accused to repeatedly stab her. This is a gruesome incident, which, as we have already said in our earlier order, should have never happened."

"Obviously, therefore, protocols will have to be immediately evolved as to the manner in which doctors, healthcare professionals, students, interns, house surgeons and such others are to be protected because, otherwise, the faith in the system will surely erode," it further noted.

Therefore, the bench directed the SPC to evolve sufficient and effective protocols concerning how persons in custody – be that accused or otherwise – are to be presented in hospitals and before medical professionals as part of the criminal justice system or such other.

"...as we have already said in our earlier order, it would be apposite to reflect upon the protocols that are applicable in the case of the production of accused before a learned Magistrate. We must, however, say that even the protocols with respect to learned Magistrates are extremely lacking and it is only a matter of providential grace that we have yet to come across a situation where such an officer is attacked. The Police will have to certainly pull up their socks on a war-footing," further observed the bench.

Observing that "lack of protocols or inefficiency of the same, can never be impelled as a reason to justify another crime", the HC bench directed, for the time being, that every protocol applicable for production of the accused or persons in custody of the Police before the learned Magistrate shall apply in the case of the production of such persons in the hospitals or before the doctors or health care professionals concerned.

Addressing the issue of security in various hospitals and especially those in the Government Sector, the bench observed,

"...we have no doubt that it is the fundamental duty of the SPC to ensure such. In fact, he also agreed to this and submitted that he will place on record necessary requirements and protocols in this regard, including considering whether members of the State Industrial Security Force (SISF) can be deployed for such purposes."

"Of course, we have to give the SPC some time to consider all these aspects and inform us; but, in the meanwhile, we are constrained to ensure that effective security is provided in all hospitals in the manner as is legally possible, so as to avoid any further incidents or attacks. We remind the SPC, as we have already indited above, that it is the fundamental obligation of the police force, headed by him, to ensure that hospitals and the personnel who man them are adequately and sufficiently protected on a day-to-day basis, for the 24 - hour time frame," the bench mentioned in the order.

During the course of the hearing, Advocate Sri.Gopakumaran Nair intervened to say that Government has been assuring that an Ordinance will be brought to amend the 2012 Act appositely. Referring to this, he urged the court to issue direction to the Government to take action in this regard quickly. Further, he prayed to the court to direct Government for considering the appointment of a Special Prosecutor for trial of the case.

Responding to this, the Government counsel submitted that the requests will be considered by the Government with all seriousness and discussions are going on with all stakeholders regarding the concerned Ordinance and prayers will be submitted to the Court by the next date of hearing.

Meanwhile, Dr. Rajeev Joshi submitted that Government has not yet responded to certain IAs and taking note of this, the bench directed the Senior Government Pleader to look into the interim applications and submit the response by the next date of hearing.

Apart from this, the bench also allowed the Kerala University of Health Sciences (KUHS) to submit their suggestions regarding the Ordinance or the amendment before the Government.

Medical Dialogues had earlier reported that recently the State Government of Kerala has informed the High Court that the Government is proposing to amend the Kerala Healthcare Service Persons and Healthcare Service Institutions (Prevention of Violence and Damage to Property) Act 2012.

During the course of hearing of a plea filed by Kerala Private Hospitals Association, the HC bench had referred to the reports of 'routine' attacks on Healthcare personnel and observed that even though Kerala Healthcare Service Act 2012 has provision for strict penalties for assault against healthcare workers, the legal provision was not sufficient to stop the assaults.

Apart from this, taking note of the increasing number of attacks upon doctors, the HC bench had earlier directed the police authorities to ensure that a First Information Report (FIR) gets registered on every incident of violence within one hour. Besides, in a landmark move, the HC bench also decided to directly take cognizance of the complaints regarding violence against doctors, nurses or other healthcare professionals.

To read the HC order, click on the link below:

https://medicaldialogues.in/pdf_upload/kerala-hc-violence-against-doctors-209473.pdf

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Health – Dominican Today

Public Health recognizes gyms should not sell steroids

Santo Domingo.- The Vice Minister of Collective Health, Eladio Pérez, recently emphasized that gyms should not be authorized places to distribute medications, exceptionally anabolic steroids used to enhance muscle mass among young individuals.

Santo Domingo.- The Vice Minister of Collective Health, Eladio Pérez, recently emphasized that gyms should not be authorized places to distribute medications, exceptionally anabolic steroids used to enhance muscle mass among young individuals. Pérez expressed concern about the improper dispensation of medications, comparing it to administering a penicillin injection in a non-medical setting. He clarified that gyms are not subject to the qualifications and oversight of the Vice Ministry of Quality Assurance, suggesting that other ministries may have jurisdiction over these matters. Pérez assured that appropriate measures would be taken to address the situation if necessary, emphasizing the need to regulate the sales of such substances.

Minister of Sports, Francisco Camacho, acknowledged the challenge of intervening in the matter, noting that gyms are private businesses. He stated that the approval of the General Sports Law is required to address the issue effectively. Camacho explained that while the Ministry, the Olympic Committee, and the International Olympic Committee hold responsibilities regarding athletes and can conduct doping tests, they lack jurisdiction over private citizens. He stressed the need for complaints to be filed to initiate regulatory actions.

Pérez called for the regulation of the sales of these substances and emphasized that the Ministry of Public Health’s role is to verify the importation of approved drugs with proper sanitary registration and quality guarantees. He highlighted the passive monitoring conducted to detect specific issues and ensure safe administration in healthcare centers. The vice minister also called for stronger enforcement of the law and increased doping tests in sports.

In response to the situation, the Ministry of Sports has been collaborating with the Ministry of Health to raise awareness among parents about the dangers of steroid use and encourage them to report coaches who promote the use of such substances to their children. Rafael Mena, the Vice President of the Pediatric Society, emphasized the risks associated with indiscriminate use of anabolic steroids, such as liver cancer, hypertension, and muscle and ligament rupture. Mena stressed the importance of increased supervision and penalties for coaches who engage in such practices. He also noted that these substances are essential in medical treatments for asthma and lupus.

Efforts are being made to address the issue through the Doping Law, which aims to regulate and combat the misuse of substances. The focus is on achieving comprehensive regulations and raising awareness to protect the well-being of young athletes and individuals engaging in fitness activities.

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COVID vaccine maker Novavax forecasts higher-than-expected revenue

United States: COVID-19 vaccine maker Novavax Inc on Tuesday forecast much higher 2023 revenue than Wall Street expected and announced plans to cut a quarter of its workforce, spurring hopes of a recovery for the cash-strapped biotech, and its shares jumped 40%.

In February, the company raised doubts about its ability to remain in business, due to uncertainty about 2023 revenue, funding from the U.S. government, and pending arbitration with global vaccine alliance Gavi.

Novavax, whose COVID vaccine is its lone marketed product after 35 years in business, is relying on launching an updated COVID shot this fall to match circulating strains and cost cuts to improve its prospects.

The Maryland-based drugmaker on Tuesday also unveiled promising early data for its COVID and flu combination vaccine.

It said it now expects 2023 revenue between $1.4 billion and $1.6 billion, compared with analysts' estimates of $831.6 million, according to Refinitiv data.

Novavax said $800 million of that was from "locked-in" overseas purchase contracts for the COVID shot that it has committed to ship this year.

Jefferies analyst Roger Song said the amount of overseas revenue flagged by the company was a surprise to the market, and the roughly $260 million to $440 million they expect in the U.S. was also encouraging.

"They seemed to be very confident about the U.S. fall campaign," Song said.

Novavax is working to produce an update version of its protein-based vaccine in time for the fall COVID-19 booster season. Protein-based vaccines like Novavax's take longer to produce than the messenger RNA-based versions made by Moderna and Pfizer /BioNTech.

Chief Executive John Jacobs declined to disclose the company's U.S. pricing strategy as the country moves to a commercial marketplace for COVID products from government purchases when the pandemic was designated a public health emergency.

"Obviously, it's a really competitive marketplace. We're coming in as a late follower with two competitors that were entrenched in the U.S. market already," Jacobs said in an interview. "We're assessing what the competitors are doing and we'd rather unveil our cards a little bit later."

The company said it plans to layoff around 20% of its nearly 2,000 full-time employees, close to 400 jobs. The remaining job cuts will be contractors, it said.

Novavax expects the cost cuts to reduce its annual research and commercial expenses by 20% to 25% from last year.

Its cash and equivalents fell to $637 million at quarter-end from $1.3 billion as of Dec. 31.

Novavax posted a first-quarter net loss of $3.41 a share, compared with estimates for a loss of $3.46 a share.

All the COVID vaccine makers are working on COVID-flu combination shots with the aim of expanding and picking up market share in what they hope will be an annual booster market.

Data from a mid-stage trial in adults aged 50 to 80 years showed that the combination shot produced an immune response comparable to its protein-based COVID vaccine and already approved influenza shots, Novavax said.

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PBMs, the brokers who control drug prices, finally get Washington’s attention

For two decades, patients and physicians eagerly awaited a lower-cost version of the world's bestselling drug, Humira, while its maker, AbbVie, fought off potential competitors by building a wall of more than 250 patents around it.

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