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NEET 2024: Hold Retest for 13 Lakh Candidates who Scored Cut-off Marks, Petitioners Urge Supreme Court

New Delhi: The Supreme Court on Monday i.e. on July 22nd, 2024 heard in detail about the pleas seeking a re-conduction of the National Eligibility-and-Entrance Test Undergraduate (NEET-UG) 2024 examination. 

Appearing on behalf of the petitioners seeking a re-NEET, several counsels including Advocate Hooda, Advocate Helge and Advocate Nedumpara opined that there should be a re-test, at least for the 13 lakh candidates who qualified in the exam by scoring the cut-off 164 marks.

However, the bench did not give any order on the issue. During the proceedings, a counsel appeared for a petitioner who secured 711 marks and challenged a question which had ambiguous options.

In this regard, the Apex Court bench directed the Director of IIT Delhi to constitute a team of three experts of the subject concerned and formulate the opinion on the correct option and remit the opinion to the Registrar by 12 noon tomorrow.

Pleas Seeking Re-NEET: 

Medical Dialogues had earlier reported that during the last hearing of the case on July 18, the Apex Court bench led by Chief Justice of India DY Chandrachud had asked the National Testing Agency (NTA) to publish the marks obtained by all the candidates in the NEET UG 2024 exam while ensuring that the identity of the students was masked.

NTA had been directed to declare the results separately city and centre-wise within 5 PM on July 19. The top court bench had expressed that it was important to ensure whether the paper leak was confined to the centres in Patna and Hazaribag or was more widespread. Further, the Supreme Court had sought to view the case diary of the Patna Police. 

What Happened at Today's Hearing: 

Advocate Hooda for the petitioners pointed out that NTA has already published the results but they have not given the All India Rank or the seriatum of the exam centres. He informed the Court that the agency has given centre-wise and city-wise results, withholding the All India Rank and serial number of the exam centres.

Meanwhile, CJI observed that the question paper was being ferried in an e-rickshaw without any doubt even though they claimed that the photograph was of OMR sheet. As per the CJI, the ferrying of paper in e-rickshaw was established. Thereafter, the CJI questioned what emerged from the centre-wise and city-wise data.

Responding to this, Advocate Hooda submitted that they had already submitted a note based on the data. He also submitted that they admitted paper leak and admitted that the dissemination happened on WhatsApp. Referring to the Bihar Police materials, he argued that the students were given leaked papers on the 4th and the leak did not happen on the morning of May 5 as was suggested.

Advocate Hooda further claimed that the leak happened before the deposit of the question papers with the respective banks i.e. on 3rd May or before that. "It is not some peon went to the paper room and gave it to some 5-10 students. It was handiwork of a gang who have done it in past too. Sanjeev Mukhya and all have not been arrested," he submitted, while referring to the statement of Anurag Yadav recorded by Bihar Police.

Further referring to the statements of Nitesh Kumar, Amit Anand and Sikander Prasad, Advocate Hooda argued that their 161 statements indicated that the leak was much prior to the examination.

Responding to these arguments, the Solicitor General submitted that Amit Anand was a middleman and he was collecting the students on the night of 4th so that he could get the papers on the 5th. He also claimed that Nitish Kumar was at the place where the papers were received on the 5th. However, Advocate Hooda for the petitioners claimed that the investigation was being botched up by the stand taken by the Government of India. 

At this outset, the CJI took note of Amit Anand's statement that said that the students were gathered to memorize the answers on the night of 4th May, the day before the examination. However, the Solicitor General urged the Apex Court to read the report of the Economic Offences Unit (EOU) of the Bihar police for a complete picture.

"Statements are at variance. One statement says the leak happened on the 4th night, second statement says it was received on WhatsApp on the 5th morning. Amit Anand's statements are at variance," noted the CJI.

Taking note of the first statement, the CJI opined that it indicated that the leak had happened on the May 4th night. "If the leak has taken place on the night of the (May) 4th, then obviously the leak did not took place not at the process of transportation, and it took place prior, at the strong room vault," the CJI further observed at this outset.

The CJI further took note of the fact that all the problem solvers were students and none of them were professors. Responding to this, the Solicitor General submitted that for this work, students are better prepared as per his knowledge. The CJI noted that some of these students were from AIIMS Patna, some from Ranchi and from Rajasthan.

The Solicitor General further submitted that they bifurcated the papers and each had 25-30 questions, 25 questions, with computers and books could be easily solved. He further argued that after comparing the success rate of this particular centre and State with previous years' results, they found no abnormality.

When Senior Advocate Hegde urged the Court to read the statement of Anurag Yadav, who was the student and not a gang member, the CJI noted that Anurag Yadav said in his statement that he got it on the night of 4th May.

"Even so, we have to see if the leak is localised and confined only to Hazaribagh and Patna or whether it is widespread and systemic," observed the CJI, adding that "We don't have any material so far to show the leak was so widespread and spread across the country."

Advocate Hooda argued that according to NTA, the dispatch happened on 24th of April, and the paper reached on 3rd of May. Therefore, the paper remained in the hands of private players in between 24th April to 3rd May.

Referring to the example of Hardyal School of Jhajjar, Advocate Hooda submitted that the principal went to both banks to get the paper and the paper from the Canara bank was distributed. When it appeared that there were six students who got 720/720, two scored 719 and 718, it was asked how so many toppers were from one centre.

Back then, NTA had stated that they were given grace marks as there was a delay. However, the principal said that there was no delay and the Canara bank paper was distributed. But the SBI paper had to be distributed, argued Advocate Hooda.

Taking note of these submissions, the CJI questioned how someone from Jhajjar went to the Canara bank to collect the papers. Responding to this, the Solicitor General submitted that it might be a mistake.

The CJI further questioned NTA what happened exactly at the centre in Jhajjar. In response, the NTA counsel submitted that Jhajjar was a new centre and perhaps the city coordinator might not had seen the message and due to this, the question paper was picked up from both the places.

"Are the banks not informed that you don't have to release? Canara bank wasn't told they are not to release?" observed the CJI.

Responding to this, the Solicitor General informed that the message goes to the bank. When the CJI questioned how the centre-in-charge at Jhajjar went to Canara bank, NTA submitted that it was a mistake, both on the part of the coordinator and the bank. The agency further informed the Supreme Court that there were a little more than 3000 candidates who got the Canara bank paper.

However, the CJI further sought to know at how many centres this happened. The counsel for NTA informed the Court that it would submit the correct number.

The Chief Justice questioned why the students were given grace marks. The Solicitor General informed that it was not a correct decision. He also pointed out that there was a decision stating that in case of time problems, students be given grace marks. However, later this decision was recalled and re-test was done.

Meanwhile, Advocate Hooda pointed out that only one answer key for the SBI paper was declared on 4th June. So, he questioned how they evaluated the Canara bank papers.

NTA submitted that the grace marks were given only to the students whose paper (Canara Bank) was withdrawn midway and the SBI paper was given. The agency further informed that 3300 completed the exam with the wrong paper i.e. was from the Canara Bank.

When Advocate Hooda questioned how the Canara bank papers were evaluated since they had released only one key for the SBI paper, the CJI noted that they must had a key for Canara Bank. However, Advocate Hooda pointed out that till date no key for the Canara bank paper was declared.

"Okay, assuming that wrong things happened, show us the data, how it was widespread," observed the CJI.

Advocate Hooda also pointed out that only 863 out of 1563 candidates appeared for the re-examination. The CJI sought to know these 1563 candidates were from how many centres. The Solicitor General informed the bench that these students were from 8 centres. Advocate Hooda claimed that all of this was being done behind the curtains and nothing was disclosed.

At this outset, the CJI questioned the Solicitor General and NTA about how many centres distributed the Canara bank papers, out of those centres, in how many centres, the correct question booklets from SBI replaced the Canara Bank papers. The bench also asked how many centres altogether were the papers evaluated for Canara bank papers and once the Canara Bank papers were evaluated, how did the candidates fare.

Thereafter the CJI asked who issued the letter of authorisation to the papers who collected the papers from Canara bank. SG informed that the authorisation is given by the Director General of NTA to the City Coordinators. 

"What does the person take to the Bank? He has authorisations both for SBI and Canara Bank or only one?" questioned the CJI.

When the CJI asked if the authorisation is given for both the banks, the CG informed that it is for both the banks and the City Coordinator is told in the morning about which bank to approach.

"Did the city coordinator in Jhajjar go to Canara bank and distributed to all centres or only some?" asked the CJI. Responding to this, Advocate Hooda submitted that he collected from both banks.

"How did that happen? And he distributed in all centres the Can bank paper?" further questioned CJI Chandrachud.

NTA submitted at this outset that he distributed the Canara bank papers to three centres in Jhajjar and from two it was withdrawn when he realised the mistake and at the other centre, it continued.

Advocate Hooda further submitted that there was another blunder in the case of Hardayal school, where the students were given grace marks and 6 out of them got full marks. He argued that if Canara bank paper was attempted, where was the question of giving grace marks.

Responding to this, the SG submitted that it was mistake which was corrected later. He further argued that wherever the wrong paper was initially given, it was taken back and the new paper was given consequently and this resulted in cutting time and therefore grace marks were given.

"Grace marks were given to those students who were given wrong booklet which was withdrawn midway," confirmed the CJI and the SG responded by agreeing to the statement.

Meanwhile, referring to the NTA's statement before the Court, Advocate argued that it showed that the grace marks were given to Hardyal School students too.

CJi asked NTA, "Hardayal School students wrote only Canara Bank paper. Were they also given grace marks?"

When NTA counsel submitted that he would take instructions, Advocate Hooda submitted that he would take instructions. Thereafter Advocate Hooda submitted by saying that it was a "systemic failure".

The counsel for NTA submitted that in Hardayal school, grace marks were given. "In Hardayal school, all students wrote Canara bank paper. Why were they given grace marks," questioned the CJI.

At this outset, the SG pointed out that the counsel for the petitioners was arguing that the entire country's exam was being vitiated and that giving some examples of some mistakes might not assist him. However, Advocate Hooda argued that there was a "systematic failure".

Referring to Jhajjar, Advocate Hooda pointed out that initially, the authorities had argued that the Canara bank paper was given and evaluated and now they were saying that no grace marks were given and extra time were given. He questioned who took this decision.

He pointed out that in Hardayal school, the student who got 719 marks secured 68 rank and after re-test, the rank became 58,000. Now, the authorities were claiming that they did not know whether Canara paper or SBI paper was given, argued Hooda, pointing out that on 4th June, only SBI key was given and at that time they had not disclosed that grace marks were given.

Advocate Hooda also referred to Sikar where there were 49 centres and out of them one was Kendriya Vidyalaya and the rest were private schools. He pointed out that all their coordinators and invigilators were private individuals and also argued that they had shown photos of a school in a village where the exam was being conducted and it did not even have a boundary wall.

He also questioned about the time when OMR sheet had to be sealed, arguing that it kept lying in the Centre. Submitting that there was no specific procedure in this regard, mentioned by NTA, he contended that if the papers were collected at 5.20, they had to be sealed at 5.30.

"How soon after the exam concludes the sealing takes places?" asked the CJI.

Submitting that this was not found in the entire SOP, Advocate Hooda further informed that after analysing the data, they took note of certain centres which were doing exceedingly well. He pointed out that both Kota and Sikar have an equal number of students appearing, and if top centres across the country were counted where students secured more than 650 marks, 38 out of 50 centres were only from Sikar.

Kota and Sikar have both equal students appearing. 38 out of 50 centres which have students with more than 650 marks are from Sikar. 6 are from Mahendragarh, Rewari, noted the CJI.

Advocate Hooda also highlighted the difference in the data declared on the 4th of June and the 20th of July, while pointing out that in Bihar, there was a difference of 13,000 in the number of appearances. So many numbers were reduced. He further argued that as per their system, anyone from anywhere can choose any centre based on the address they put. He highlighted that people travelled from Odisha and Karnataka to Godhra. 

"A student can choose any centre in any part of the country and you don't have to submit any documents?" questioned the CJI and Advocate Hooda submitted that no documents were needed.

"Does the student at any time in the registration process show any document that he is a resident of the address?" CJI asked the Solicitor General, who submitted that he would address the issue after inquiring.

Advocate Hooda also referred to a centre in Rajkot, where 12 students scored above 100 and 115 students scored above 650 marks. In case of Sikar, he submitted that 8 students scored above 700 and 69 scored above 650, 115 students above 600 and 241 above 550.

He argued that the city coordinators were owners of private schools and the invigilators were the employees of such schools. Therefore the possibility could not be ruled out that those teachers were in league with the coaching centres in Kota and Sikar.

"Assuming that it is so, can that be one ground to cancel the exam for the entire country or to cancel the exam only for Sikar?" observed the CJI.

At this outset, Advocate Sanjay Hegde submitted that 6 people per 1000 people on average scored more than 650 marks on a national level and that should be the reference point and in Sikar, one in 4 students secured that marks.

Referring to these arguments, Advocate Hooda claimed that there was a "systemic failure", adding that those students were not students from Sikar and they had not taken coaching in Sikar. He pointed out that one girl from Gujarat went all the way to Belagavi in Karnataka and got 705 marks, but she failed in 12th. CJI, thereafter, questioned if there was any data on people from Belagavi getting unusually high marks.

Advocate Hooda argued that there was a heavy tilt towards Sikar because there was a systemic malaise and the tainted could not be separated from the untainted. He submitted that in Sawai Madahvpur, it was the case that the wrong paper was distributed and the paper started at 2 PM and they got to know at 4.30 PM from social media.

When the CJI questioned how would he establish that the paper leak was spread all over the country, Advocate Hooda submitted that besides the paper leak, his main argument was that the system was so fragile that it was consistently being compromised. 

"Are you challenging this NEET or are you appearing for people who don't want NEET at all?" the CJI questioned Advocate Hooda.

"If there are loopholes, we will address that.. Basically you have concentrated on Hazaribag, Patna...some lapses in Bahadurgarh.....where do you demonstrate a systemic failure?" the Chief Justice further noted.

Responding to this, Advocate Hooda submitted that in places like Sikar, Mahendragarh, where the concentration was happening, the OMR sheets were being manipulated and the private invigilators had the OMRs after 5.20. He questioned what prevented them from filling up the sheets and depositing them at the City Centres after 3 hours. He also questioned why a candidate from Gujarat who failed in 12 and scored high in NEET went all the way to a centre in Belagavi.

When the CJI asked about the success rate in that centre, the SG submitted that the success rate was 6%. The SG further submitted that from their analysis, for 2024, the success rate for Sikar went down.

At this outset, Justice Pardiwala observed, "Mr. Hooda, there are two ways of looking. Yes, there was a paper leak. Is it your argument that systemic failure led to paper leak?"

When Advocate Hooda answered in negative, the Judge noted, "At this point digressing from the issue of paper leak, to what extent we can go into the issue of systemic failure?"

"Let us examine in this manner, whether the students who performed well in Sikar, was it due to the paper leak?" Justice Pardiwala further observed.

Responding to this, Advocate Hooda submitted that regarding paper leak, there was direct evidence before the Court and further submitted that since the petitioners were not privt to the investigation, they could only fall back on the circumstantial evidence.

"So the alternate hypotheses that because of the systemic failures it can possible spread.." observed the CJI.

"Also Mr.Hooda, in many professional exams, students do choose some centres. Because there is a perception that the marking is lenient in those centres. That may not be a ground to cancel the entire exam," the CJI further noted, adding that they would ask the SG to tighten up the systemic flaws.

"You have pointed out issues like no clarity on when the OMR sheets are sealed, time gap between the exam and the deposit of OMR sheets, lack of address verification.." the Chief Justice observed.

After the lunch break, Advocate Hooda summarised his arguments by saying that Sanjeev Mukhya, a gangster is yet to be arrested. He further pointed out that the solvers were taken from Rajasthan and the Dissemination was through WhatsApp. So, it is not possible that the leak is confined to Patna. Referring to the CBI's argument that the leak happened on 5th May, he submitted that if the paper was available on 4th, the leak happened before 4th or even 3rd. Finally, he suggested holding a retest for at least for those who qualified in the exam held on 5th May, 2024 i.e. around 13 lakh candidates.

Meanwhile, Senior Advocate Hegde appearing for the petitioners also argued that the argument that the leak happened on 5th May could not be accepted. Referring to the investigation reports saying that some of the messages went to about 100 people, he argued that the leak happened at least on the night of 4th May or before that.

He further pointed out that the CBI investigation was not only confined to Patna but was covering multiple States. Advocate Hegde further submitted that the investigator did not come to any conclusion that it was a localised leak. He further submitted that NEET is not only used for government seats but it is also accepted in several foreign countries. So, referring to the 13 lakh candidates who obtained the 164 cut-off or more, he questioned whether all of them had been judged with a fair standard.

"Can we say everybody got marks which they were fairly entitled to? A competitive exam turning out 61 toppers cannot be trusted," he further submitted.

At this outset, the CJI pointed out that out of these 61 students, 44 got grace marks. In response to this, Advocate Hegde pointed out that it was for two options for one question and pointed out that those 44 students got marks for getting 179 questions right. 

He further contended that if the syllabus had been easy, then rising tide raised all boats together. Referring to the fact that in the zone above 650, there were more than 50,000 students, he referred to it as a huge red flag.

Relying on a medical analogy, Advocate Hegde pointed out that when a doctor suspects cancer and the tests are inconclusive, the best thing to do is go for chemotherapy because one cannot risk the cancer cells growing.

"Your lordships on this date do not know how many got into the system. Each govt seat is govt spending a crore per student per year," submitted Hegde.

Advocate Hegde, thereafter, referred to the NTA's submissions before the Supreme Court and submitted that had NTA been a serious examination agency, it would have been most concerned about the integrity of the exam. But on 5th itself when it was told that the paper was leaked, supposing that NTA had taken a decision to scrap, would the Court have found an outrageous defiance of logic in that situation?

NTA continued to deny the fact that there was a leak, it did not cooperate with Bihar Police. Even though EOU wrote to the NTA, they did not respond immediately, submitted Hegde, adding that it was only after questions were being asked, that the NTA responded. It was only after the Court started asking questions that NTA started giving data, accepted that grace marks were given and held a retest. He pointed out that it was only on June 22 that changes were made in the personnel and CBI was put in the charge of investigation.

He argued that what came out was that there was an organized gang, with a prior history of leaking papers. It was their business model, submitted Hegde, adding that the leaked paper was a time-limited commodity. Everybody to whom the leaked paper went would try to maximise the profits. He further argued that the students could not be told that it was a fair exam and submitted that if these results were upheld, those post-dated cheques could still be encashed. Somebody who got 720 ended up with 640 in the re-test. With these submissions, he requested for a re-test for all those who qualified in the exam.

Advocate Nedumpara, appearing for the petitioners, also urged the Court to treat the May 5th exam as a preliminary exam and conduct a main exam. He argued that re-test was a question of common sense and prudence. Referring to the National Testing Agency's chart, he argued that the data was manifestly incorrect and the bell chart was a fraud. 

As per Advocate Nedumpara, the leak industry was worth 2500 crore. He pointed out that 50,000 government medical seats are there and for the private medical colleges, the capitation fee could be anything between 50 lakh to 1 crore. He stressed the fact that the leak had been happening for many years and submitted that it happened in 2013, 2014 and 2016. 

He also relied on the intervention application filed by the NEET UG 2024 candidates who scored more than 650 marks and also demanded a retest, considering the issue of paper leak.

One of the counsels appearing for the petitioners relied on the 2015 judgment in the case of "Tanvi Sarwal", in which the All India Pre-Medical 2015 examination was cancelled after finding out that 44 candidates were beneficiaries of unfair means.

Quoting from the concerned Judgement, the counsel submitted that "Even if, one undeserving candidate, a beneficiary of such illegal machination, though undetected is retained in the process it would be in denial of, the claim of more deserving candidates."

Meanwhile, another counsel opposed the NTA's decision of holding retest for 1563 candidates and questioned how did the NTA come up with the figure of 1563 candidates on June 4 when on May 5th, they talked about only once centre in Sawai Madhavpur.

He also objected to NTA opening a 24-hour window on April 9th allowing 24,000 students to additionally register for NEET. He submitted that the candidates who were not vigilant in filling the forms in time shouldn't be given additional opportunities.

During the proceedings, counsel appeared for a petitioner who secured 711 marks and challenged a question which had ambiguous options. The Counsel submitted that the petitioner chose not to attempt the question and NTA later gave full marks to candidates who answered either of the options. She further submitted that had NTA refused to give marks, the petitioner would have been in the top.

Some of the counsels argued that there should be no re-neet as it would cause candidates severe hardships and take them back to the entire timeline of registration, appearing in the exam, publication of results, etc.

Another counsel raised the issue that the students in some centres in Meghalaya were not given grace marks or given an option for a re-test even though they had suffered the loss of time. In this regard, the Supreme Court bench asked the Solicitor General to take instructions.

Meanwhile, Sr. Adv Mukta Gupta submitted the grievance of a petitioner, who was suffering from hyper-sweating problem and was not allowed to take a handkerchief. As per the counsel, because of the excessive sweating, the candidate could not properly attend the exam and sought a re-test. The CJI asked the remaining lawyers, who were arguing for a re-test, to send their written submissions by email.

Also Read: Breaking News: Supreme Court Directs NTA to Publish Entire NEET 2024 Results masking candidates' identities

11 months 1 hour ago

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Reminder of Mobile Clinic locations and times for this week

The Ministry of Health and Wellness reminds members of the public that the Mobile Clinic will operate at the following locations and times, this week, from Monday to Thursday.

  • Warrens Tower II, Warrens, St Michael – Monday, July 22.
  • Emerald City Carpark, Six Roads, St Philip – Tuesday, July 23.
  • National Insurance and Social Security Service, Culloden Road, St Michael – Wednesday, July 24.
  • Queen’s Park, Constitution Road, St. Michael – Thursday, July 25.

The services being provided are routine screening for non-communicable diseases, Prostate-specific antigen testing, blood pressure checks and blood sugar testing, HbA1c , screening for sexually transmitted infections, breast examination and teaching, and Tetanus Toxoid vaccines.

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11 months 15 hours ago

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Extreme heat and some medications can be a dangerous combination

Houston-Sydney-Massachusetts – Extreme heat can increase the danger of heat-related illnesses and, more subtly, threaten health by amplifying the side effects of many common medications.

Houston-Sydney-Massachusetts – Extreme heat can increase the danger of heat-related illnesses and, more subtly, threaten health by amplifying the side effects of many common medications.

Heat can also damage medications such as insulin, which requires refrigeration. Inhalers can explode. Epinephrine injectors, such as EpiPens, can malfunction. Medications that are shipped through the mail can deteriorate.

A look at common problems and solutions related to heat and medicine:

What medications could cause problems with heat?

Blood pressure pills that reduce fluid in the blood can cause dehydration. Beta-blockers for heart conditions can reduce blood flow to the skin and make you less aware of dangerous heat.

Some antidepressants can make it harder to stay calm. Aspirin and other over-the-counter pain relievers reduce fluid and sodium levels, making it difficult to manage high temperatures.

In addition, the combination of heat and medication side effects can lead to dizziness and falls. Alcohol increases the danger, said pharmacist Bradley Phillips of the University of Florida College of Pharmacy.

Learn more about your medications’ side effects and storage requirements at the National Library of Medicine’s MedlinePlus website.

Phillips said you can also check with your doctor or pharmacist. Ask how much water you should drink if you take medications that increase dehydration.

He recommends staying hydrated and “not relying on your body’s ability to tell you that you’re thirsty.”

Some medications (antibiotics, antifungals, and acne) can increase sun sensitivity, leading to rashes and burns. If you’re taking them, stay under an umbrella or wear sun-protective clothes and sunscreen, said Dr. Mike Ren, a family physician at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston.

“You may be on antibiotics, not think too much of it, go to the beach and then come back with a huge sunburn,” Ren said.

How should travel medications be stored?

Generally, medications should be kept in a cool, dry place unless they need refrigeration, which can be tricky when traveling.

Before a summer road trip, check labels for storage requirements for your medications. Carry medications in a cooler when traveling by car, even if they do not require refrigeration. The trunk or glove compartment of the car may become too hot to store them, even at room temperature.

Traveling by plane? It is always best to carry medications in carry-on luggage if checked luggage is delayed or lost, and it may be too cold in the cargo hold.

What about mailed prescriptions?

Mail-order pharmacies are responsible for keeping medications at safe temperatures during storage and transport. The best practice is to ship sensitive medications in special containers with ice packs and temperature monitors.

But that doesn’t always happen. Or delivery can come at a bad time, said Ren, who recently helped his vacationing mother by bringing her shipment of supplements to her Houston home as the region faced sweltering heat.

“If you know you’re going to be at work all day or if you’re on vacation and you’re having medications delivered to your home, you definitely don’t want them outside in the scorching 38-degree sun,” Ren said. If you think the heat has damaged your mail-order medication, call the pharmacy to report the problem.

Is more research needed?

Yes. Researchers in the U.S. and Australia say some of the usual warnings about heat and medications don’t have much scientific evidence to back them up. Ollie Jay of the University of Sydney found support for only four of the 11 categories of medications that the World Health Organization lists as of concern in relation to intense heat.

He suggests changing behaviors, not medications, such as not exposing oneself to heat. “You have to be a little more cautious,” he said.

Dr. Renee Salas, an emergency physician at Massachusetts General Hospital, said that as climate change accelerates, there is a need to know which medications are the most risky in the heat.

“We don’t have that answer yet, and it’s one we need to figure out quickly. Some medications (antibiotics, antifungal and acne medications) can increase sensitivity to the sun, leading to rashes and burns.ente,” Salas said.

11 months 21 hours ago

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Biological modification of mosquitoes in Colombia prevents transmission of dengue and other diseases

Dengue is becoming a severe problem in Latin America and the Caribbean, warned the Pan American Health Organization (PAHO).

However, thanks to the biological modification of the mosquitoes that transmit this disease, the World Mosquito Program is managing to reduce cases by leaps and bounds in some regions of the world.

Dengue is becoming a severe problem in Latin America and the Caribbean, warned the Pan American Health Organization (PAHO).

However, thanks to the biological modification of the mosquitoes that transmit this disease, the World Mosquito Program is managing to reduce cases by leaps and bounds in some regions of the world.

After years of hard work, the World Mosquito Program reduced dengue cases by 95% in the Antioquia region of Colombia.

How? By breeding and later releasing mosquitoes born with the Wolbachia bacterium, which “prevents transmission” of this tropical endemic disease, which causes headaches, vomiting, and, in some cases, even death.

Despite these promising results, PAHO warns that Latin America and the Caribbean will experience their “worst dengue season” this year, with some 9.3 million cases and at least 4,500 deaths between January and June due to climate change, lack of water services, and overpopulation.

Nelson Grisales, responsible for this project in Medellín, explains that the first step to solving the problem is to raise awareness among governments:

When they begin to understand and accept biological control methods, particularly this one, which is a natural method without manipulation, governments will start to require them. That willingness to understand takes time for something revolutionary, but we are on the right track.

Another factor preventing the implementation of this prevention system is the lack of resources to adopt it in tropical and subtropical developing countries.

“We all know that the resources available for public health and diseases such as dengue, which are not necessarily very lethal, are neglected diseases,” said Morales, who assured that these nations do not have much budget to be able to control them.

For this reason, the specialist stressed the importance of “international cooperation and donors” to support government work and allocate or reallocate some resources.

THE RISK OF DISINFORMATION
Finally, the expert points to misinformation hindering program integration in some regions. For example, in September last year, a handful of people protested in front of his laboratory, arguing that Bill Gates, one of the project’s funders, releases chips through mosquitoes to control minds.

“information, at the moment, is a problem at the public health level: the anti-vaccine, anti-medicine, anti-medicine campaigns, in general terms, are huge and affect all countries,” he said. In his opinion, this generates a “mistaken understanding” of many factors, which can lead to disinformation campaigns with a mistaken narrative, however intuitive or normal they may be.

All these obstacles may delay the project’s implementation in some countries, but experts are convinced that the World Mosquito Program will soon become a public health measure. He assures that its mission will not end until dengue fever is eradicated.

11 months 22 hours ago

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St George and St John will be fogged this week

The Vector Control Unit will take its fogging programme to St George and St John, this week.

The Unit will visit both parishes on Monday when it carries out its fogging exercise in Wakefield Road, Four Road, Lemon Arbour Village, Bayley Alley, Sweet Vale, Butcher Road, Brathwaite Road, and Golden Ridge.

The Vector Control Unit will take its fogging programme to St George and St John, this week.

The Unit will visit both parishes on Monday when it carries out its fogging exercise in Wakefield Road, Four Road, Lemon Arbour Village, Bayley Alley, Sweet Vale, Butcher Road, Brathwaite Road, and Golden Ridge.

The team will focus on St George, for the rest of the week. On Tuesday the Unit will spray Paradise Village Nos. 1 to 3, Roach Village, Applewhaites, Lucas Hall Tenantry Road, Lucas Heights, Belair Nos.1 and 2, Upper Belair, Jericho, and surrounding areas.

It will be the turn of Cottage Heights, Cottage Crescent, Grove Tenantry, Market Hill, Bridge Cot, Grove Cottage, Bridge Cot Terrace, Old Post Office Road, Cottage Court West, Cottage Crescent Drive, Moon Shine Close, and St Helens, when the Unit fogs on Wednesday.

The next day the following districts will be sprayed:1st and 2nd Lower Newbury, Newbury, Fusilier Road, Rose Hill, Taitt Hill, and Newbury Heights.

The fogging exercise for the week will conclude on Friday in Salisbury, Hope Road, Free Hill, Workmans, and environs.

Fogging takes place from 4:30 to 8:30 p.m. daily. Householders are reminded to open their windows and doors to allow the spray to enter. Children should not be allowed to play in the fog.

Members of the public are advised that the completion of scheduled fogging activities may be affected by events beyond the Unit’s control. In such circumstances, the Unit will return to communities affected in the soonest possible time.

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Health – Dominican Today

Physician urges public to know what an emergency is

Santo Domingo – Nearly 80% of the patients who arrive at an emergency room are emergency cases. This highlights the need to educate the population about the difference between emergency rooms and urgencies so that they know where to go in the event of a medical eventuality, said Dr. Josué Hernández, medical director of Médico Express.

Santo Domingo – Nearly 80% of the patients who arrive at an emergency room are emergency cases. This highlights the need to educate the population about the difference between emergency rooms and urgencies so that they know where to go in the event of a medical eventuality, said Dr. Josué Hernández, medical director of Médico Express.

Urgency can be any health condition that requires quick medical assistance but does not put a patient’s life at risk. Examples include migraines, back pain, ear pain, fever, mild trauma, and viral or allergic processes.

An emergency is when a person has a life-threatening situation requires immediate attention. These almost always require hospitalization or intensive care, for example, chest pain, loss of consciousness, convulsions, profuse bleeding, and polytrauma, among others, added Hernandez.

People who attend Médico Express will be able to have most of their health conditions and situations treated from the point of view of urgency, consultation, diagnosis, and even outpatient surgeries.

The emergency medicine specialist emphasized, “We do not perform hospitalizations; our rooms are emergency rooms. It is important that the citizens know these differences and scope.” Educating and orienting the patient benefits the system.

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Health – Dominican Today

Dominican Republic aims to eradicate Mediterranean fruit fly

Punta Cana.- The Ministry of Agriculture of the Dominican Republic, in collaboration with regional food security agencies, conducted a simulation this week to eradicate the Mediterranean fruit fly in Punta Cana.

Punta Cana.- The Ministry of Agriculture of the Dominican Republic, in collaboration with regional food security agencies, conducted a simulation this week to eradicate the Mediterranean fruit fly in Punta Cana.

The pest was first identified in late December and was swiftly eradicated with the support of technicians from various international and Dominican institutions under the Department of Plant Health. Rosa Lazala, director of the department, stated that the country is progressing towards the eradication of Ceratitis capitata, following the emergency protocol provisions.

The drill involved releasing more sterile male Mediterranean fruit flies. To date, 22 of the planned 24 releases have been completed, with over three million flies being released each week.

The Dominican Republic is close to eliminating this insect in record time, setting a model for 13 Mesoamerican countries. This effort is part of the Subregional Simulation of International Scope of the Mediterranean Fly Eradication Program for the Caribbean region and other member nations of the International Regional Organization for Agricultural Health (OIRSA).

Limber Cruz, Minister of Agriculture, led the eradication drill along with former President Hipólito Mejía. Cruz credited President Luis Abinader for the strengthened agricultural sector, including health. The Ministry of Agriculture confirmed that since the last capture in January, no new flies have been detected.

11 months 2 days ago

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Dominican Republic reports 941 Dengue cases

Santo Domingo.- The Dominican Republic has reported 941 cases of dengue fever and nine deaths so far this year, according to the Ministry of Public Health. This represents a decrease compared to the same period last year.

Santo Domingo.- The Dominican Republic has reported 941 cases of dengue fever and nine deaths so far this year, according to the Ministry of Public Health. This represents a decrease compared to the same period last year.

The latest weekly epidemiological bulletin confirms six new cases of dengue in the past seven days, one fewer than the previous week. Despite this, the number of suspected cases this year has surpassed 8,000.

The Ministry of Health recently launched the “Let’s Beat Dengue” campaign to combat the spread of Aedes aegypti, the mosquito responsible for transmitting dengue, chikungunya, and zika viruses. The campaign aims to reduce mosquito proliferation during the peak season of virus transmission, which is exacerbated by the heat and rain.

Last year, the Dominican Republic experienced a severe outbreak with approximately 28,000 confirmed cases and over 60 deaths.

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KFF Health News' 'What the Health?': At GOP Convention, Health Policy Is Mostly MIA

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Julie Rovner
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Julie Rovner
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Read Julie's stories.

Julie Rovner is chief Washington correspondent and host of KFF Health News’ weekly health policy news podcast, “What the Health?” A noted expert on health policy issues, Julie is the author of the critically praised reference book “Health Care Politics and Policy A to Z,” now in its third edition.

The Republican National Convention highlighted a number of policy issues this week, but health care was not among them. That was not much of a surprise, as it is not a top priority for former President Donald Trump or most GOP voters. The nomination of Sen. J.D. Vance of Ohio adds an outspoken abortion opponent to the Republican ticket, though he brings no particular background or expertise in health care.

Meanwhile, abortion opponents are busy trying to block state ballot questions from reaching voters in November. Legal battles over potential proposals continue in several states, including Florida, Arkansas, and Arizona.

This week’s panelists are Julie Rovner of KFF Health News, Alice Miranda Ollstein of Politico, Sarah Karlin-Smith of the Pink Sheet, and Joanne Kenen of the Johns Hopkins schools of public health and nursing and Politico Magazine.

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Among the takeaways from this week’s episode:

  • Sen. J.D. Vance of Ohio has cast few votes on health policy since joining Congress last year. He has taken a doctrinaire approach to abortion restrictions, though, including expressing support for prohibiting abortion-related interstate travel and invoking the Comstock Act to block use of the mail for abortion medications. He also speaks openly about his mother’s struggles with addiction, framing it as a health rather than criminal issue in a way that resonates with many Americans.
  • Although Republicans have largely abandoned calls to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act, it would be easy for former President Donald Trump to undermine the program in a second term; expanded subsidies for coverage are due to expire next year, and there’s always the option to cut spending on marketing the program, as Trump did during his first term.
  • Trump’s recent comments to Robert F. Kennedy Jr. about childhood vaccinations echoed tropes linked to the anti-vaccination movement — particularly the false claim that while one vaccine may be safe, it is perhaps dangerous to receive several at once. The federal vaccination schedule has been rigorously evaluated and found to be safe and effective.
  • Covid is surging once again, with President Joe Biden among those testing positive this week. The virus is proving a year-round concern and has peaked regularly in summertime; covid spreads best indoors, and lately millions of Americans have taken refuge inside from extremely high temperatures. Meanwhile, the virology community is concerned that the nation isn’t testing enough animals or humans to understand the risk posed by bird flu.

Also this week, Rovner interviews KFF Health News’ Renuka Rayasam, who wrote the June installment of KFF Health News-NPR’s “Bill of the Month,” about a patient who walked into what he thought was an urgent care center and walked out with an emergency room bill. If you have an exorbitant or baffling medical bill, you can send it to us here.

Plus, for “extra credit,” the panelists suggest health policy stories they read this week that they think you should read, too: 

Julie Rovner: Time magazine’s “‘We’re Living in a Nightmare:’ Inside the Health Crisis of a Texas Bitcoin Town,” by Andrew R Chow.

Joanne Kenen: The Washington Post’s “A Mom Struggles To Feed Her Kids After GOP States Reject Federal Funds,” by Annie Gowen.

Alice Miranda Ollstein: ProPublica’s “Texas Sends Millions to Crisis Pregnancy Centers. It’s Meant To Help Needy Families, but No One Knows if It Works,” by Cassandra Jaramillo, Jeremy Kohler, and Sophie Chou, ProPublica, and Jessica Kegu, CBS News.

Sarah Karlin-Smith: The New York Times’ “Promised Cures, Tainted Cells: How Cord Blood Banks Mislead Patients,” by Sarah Kliff and Azeen Ghorayshi.

Also mentioned on this week’s podcast:

The Wall Street Journal’s “Mail-Order Drugs Were Supposed To Keep Costs Down. It’s Doing the Opposite,” by Jared S. Hopkins.

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Transcript: At GOP Convention, Health Policy Is Mostly MIA

KFF Health News’ ‘What the Health?’Episode Title: ‘At GOP Convention, Health Policy Is Mostly MIA’Episode Number: 356Published: July 18, 2024

[Editor’s note: This transcript was generated using both transcription software and a human’s light touch. It has been edited for style and clarity.]

Julie Rovner: Hello, and welcome back to “What the Health?” I’m Julie Rovner, chief Washington correspondent for KFF Health News, and I’m joined by some of the best and smartest health reporters in Washington. We’re taping this week on Thursday, July 18, at 10 a.m. As always, news happens fast and things might’ve changed by the time you hear this. So, here we go.

We are joined today via video conference by Alice Miranda Ollstein, of Politico.

Alice Miranda Ollstein: Good morning.

Rovner: Sarah Karlin-Smith at the Pink Sheet.

Sarah Karlin-Smith: Hi, everybody.

Rovner: And Joanne Kenen of the Johns Hopkins Schools of public health and nursing, and Politico Magazine.

Joanne Kenen: Hi, everybody.

Rovner: Later in this episode, we’ll have my interview with KFF Health News’ Renuka Rayasam, about the latest “Bill of the Month.” This month’s patient went to a facility with urgent care in its name but then got charged emergency room prices. But first, this week’s news.

So as of this morning, we are most of the way through the Republican National Convention, which obviously has a somewhat different tone than was expected, following last weekend’s assassination attempt on former President Donald Trump. The big news of the week is Trump’s selection of Ohio Republican Sen. JD Vance as his running mate. Vance has only been in the Senate since 2023, had not served previously in public office, and he doesn’t have much of a record on much of anything in health care. So, what do we know about what he thinks?

Ollstein: Well, I have been most focused on his abortion record, which is somewhat more extensive than his record on other health policy. Obviously, Congress has not done very much on abortion, but he’s been loud and proud about his anti-abortion views, including calling for national restrictions. He calls it a national minimum standard, but the idea is that he does not want people in conservative states where abortion is banned to be able to travel to progressive states where it is allowed. He has given interviews to that effect. He has signed letters to that effect. He has called for enforcement of the Comstock Act, which, as we’ve talked about before, is this long dormant statute that prohibits the mailing of abortion drugs or medical instruments that could be used to terminate a pregnancy. And so this is a very interesting moment to pick Vance.

The Republican Party is attempting to reach out to more moderate voters and convince them that they are hoping to leave this issue to the states. Vance’s record somewhat says otherwise. He also opposed efforts in his own state of Ohio to hold a referendum that ended up striking down that state’s abortion ban. So, definitely a lot for Democrats to go after in his record and they are not wasting any time; they are already doing it.

Rovner: Yeah, I’m kind of surprised because Vance, very much like Trump, has been kind of everywhere, or at least he has said that he’s kind of everywhere on abortion. But as you mentioned, Alice, you don’t have to look very hard to see that he’s pretty doctrinaire on the issue. Do you think people are going to buy this newer, softer Republicanism on abortion?

Ollstein: Well, abortion rights groups that I’ve spoken to are worried that people are buying it. They’re worried as they campaign around the country that the Republican Party’s attempt to walk away from their past calls for national restrictions on abortion are breaking through to people. And so they are trying really hard to counter that message and to stress that Republicans can and would pursue national restrictions, if elected.

I think both Democratic candidates and abortion rights groups are working to say even the leave-it-to-states position is too extreme and is harming people. And so they’re lifting up the stories of people in Texas and other states with bans who have experienced severe medical harm as a result of being denied an abortion. And so they’re lifting up those stories to say, “Hey, even saying let’s leave it to the states, let’s not do a national ban — even that is unacceptable in the eyes of the left.”

Kenen: The other issue obviously with his life story is opioids. His mother was addicted. Originally it began with being prescribed a legal painkiller. It’s a familiar story: became addicted, he was raised by his grandmother. His mother, who he showed on TV last night and she was either in tears or really close to tears, she’s 10 years sober now. He had a tough life and opioids was part of the reason he had a tough life. And whatever you think of his politics, that particular element of his life story resonates with people because it may explain some of his political views. But that experience is not a partisan experience and he was a kid. So I think he clearly does see opioids as a medical problem, not just, oh, let’s throw them in jail. I mean, the country and the Republican Party, that has been a change. It’s not a change that’s completed, but that shift is across party lines as well. That’s part of him that — it’s something you listen to when he tells that story.

I mean also, he told a story about his grandmother late in life, the grandmother who raised him, having, when she died, they found 19 handguns in the house all over the place. And he told sort of a funny story that she was old and frail and she always wanted to have one within reach. And all I could think of is, all these unlocked handguns with kids in the house! I mean, which is not a regulatory issue, but there’s a gun safety issue there. I’m just thinking, oh my God, 19 guns in drawers all over the house. But he’s obviously a very, the Republican Party is … I mean, after the assassination attempt, you have not heard Donald Trump say, “Maybe I need to rethink my position on gun control.” I mean, that’s not part of the dialogue right now.

I think having someone with that experience, talking about it the way he does, is a positive thing, really. Saying, “Here’s what we went through. Here’s why. Here’s how awful it was. Here’s how difficult it was to get out of it. And this is what these families need.” I mean, that is …

Rovner: Although it’s a little bit ironic because he’s very anti-social programs, in general.

Karlin-Smith: And he’s had a bad track record of trying to address the opioid crisis. He had a charity he started that he ended I guess about when he was running for Senate that really was deemed nonsuccessful. It also had questionable ties to Purdue Pharma, that’s sort of responsible for the opioid crisis. And the other thing that you sometimes hear in both him and Trump’s rhetoric is the blaming of immigrants and the drug cartels and all of that stuff for the opioid crisis. So, there’s a little bit of use of the topic, I think, to drop anti-immigrant sentiment and not really think about how to address the actual health struggles.

Kenen: When he talks about his family, he’s not saying China sent my mother fentanyl. I think it is good for people to hear stories from the perspective of a family who had this, as it is a health problem, reminding people that this is not thugs on the street shooting heroin. It’s a substance abuse disorder, it’s a disease. And so I think the country has come a long way, but it isn’t where it needs to be in terms of understanding that it’s a behavioral health problem. So I think in that sense he will probably be a reminder of that. But he doesn’t have a health record. I mean, he wasn’t there during the Obamacare wars. We don’t really know what he thinks about. I’m not aware of anything he’s really said about entitlements and Medicare. He does come from the state … I mean, Trump is saying he won’t touch it. But I mean if he said Medicare stuff, I missed it. I mean, if one of you knows, correct …

Karlin-Smith: Well, he has actually said that he supports Medicare drug price negotiation at times, which is interesting and unique for a Republican. And I mean Trump, as well, has been a bit different from the traditional Republican, I think, when it comes to the pharma industry and stuff, but I think that maybe is even a bridge too far in some ways.

Rovner: Yeah, he’s generally pretty anti-social program, so it’ll be interesting to see how he walks that line.

Well, this is all good segue into my next question, which is, health in general has been mostly MIA during this convention, including any update on Trump’s ear injury from the attempted assassination. Are we finally post-repeal-and-replace in the Republican Party? Or is this just one of those things that they don’t want to talk about but might yet take up if they get into office?

Kenen: We don’t know what the balance of power is in the Senate and the House, right? I mean, that’s probably going to be part of it. I mean, if they have huge … if they capture both chambers with huge majorities, it’s a new ballgame. Whether they actually try to repeal it, versus there’s all sorts of ways they can undermine it. Trump did not succeed in repealing it. Trump and the House Republicans did not, the Republicans in general did not succeed in repealing it, despite a lot of effort. But they did undermine it in all sorts of ways and coverage actually fell during the Trump administration. ACA [Affordable Care Act] coverage did drop; it didn’t vanish completely, but it dropped. And under Biden it continued to grow. Now, the Republicans get their health care through the ACA, so it’s become much more normalized, but we don’t know what they will do. Trump is not a predictable politician, right? I mean, he often made a big deal about trying to lower drug prices early in his term, and then nothing. And then he even released huge, long list of things …

I remember one of our reporters — Sarah and I were both … Sarah, Alice, and I were all at Politico — and I think it was David who counted the number of question marks in that report. And at the end of the day, nothing much happened. I don’t think the ACA is untouchable; it may or may not be unrepealable in its entirety, but it’s certainly not untouchable.

Rovner: Well, he also changes positions on a whim, as we’ve seen. Most politicians you can at least count on to, when they take a position, to keep it at least for a matter of days or weeks, and Trump sometimes in the same interview can sort of contradict himself, as we know. But I mean, obviously a quick way to undermine the ACA, as you say, would just be to let the extended subsidies expire because they would need to be re-upped if that’s going to continue and there are many millions of people that are now …

Kenen: And they expire next year.

Rovner: … Yes, that are …

Kenen: And there are also two other things. You cut the navigating budget. You cut advertising. You don’t try to sell it. I don’t mean literally sell it, but you don’t try to go out and urge … I mean, that was their playbook last time, and that’s why — it’s one reason enrollment dropped. And that was, the subsidies were under Biden, the extended subsidies. So that’s one year away.

Ollstein: But it’s no surprise that this hasn’t been a big topic of discussion at the RNC [Republican National Convention]. I mean, polling shows that voters trust Democrats more on health care; it’s one of their best issues. It’s not a good issue for Republicans. And so it was fully expected that they would stick to things that are more favorable to them: crime, inflation, whatnot. So, I do expect to hear a lot about health care at the DNC [Democratic National Convention] in a few weeks. But beyond that, we do not know what’s going to happen at the DNC.

Rovner: Yeah.

Karlin-Smith: I was going to say, the one health issue we haven’t really touched on, which the Republicans have been hammering on, is transgender health care and pushing limits on it, especially for people transitioning, children, and adolescents. And I think that’s clearly been a strategic move, particularly as they’ve gotten into more political trouble with abortion and women in the party. They clearly seem to think that the transgender issue, in general, appeals more to their base and it’s less risky for them.

Rovner: Their culture warrior base, as you will. Yeah, and we have in fact seen a fair bit of that. Well, before we leave the convention, one more item: It seems that Trump and RFK Jr. [independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr.] had a phone conversation, which of course leaked to the public, during which they talked about vaccine resistance. Now we know that RFK Jr. is a longtime anti-vaxxer. What, if anything, does the recounting of this conversation suggest about former President Trump’s vaccine views? And we’ve talked about this a little bit before, he’s been very antimandate for the covid vaccine, but it’s been a little bit of a blank on basic childhood vaccines.

Karlin-Smith: And I mean, his remarks are, they’re almost a little bit difficult to parse, they don’t quite make sense, but they seem to be essentially repeating anti-vax tropes around, well, maybe one vaccine on their own isn’t dangerous, but we give kids too many vaccines at a time or too close together. And all of that stuff has been debunked over the years as incorrect. The vaccine schedule has been rigorously evaluated for safety and efficacy and so forth.

That said, Trump obviously was in office when we spearheaded the development of covid vaccines, which ended up being wildly successful, and he didn’t really undermine that process, I guess, for the most part when he was in office. So it’s hard to know. Again, there’s a lot of difficulty in predicting what Trump will actually do and it may depend a lot who he surrounds himself with and who he appoints to key positions in his health department and what their views are. Because he seems like he can be easily persuaded and right now he may just be in, again, campaign mode, very much trying to appeal to a certain population. And you could easily see him — because he doesn’t seem to care about switching positions — just pivoting and being slightly less anti-vax. But it’s certainly concerning to people who have been even more about the U.S. anti-vax sentiments since covid and decreases in vaccination rates.

Rovner: It did feel like he was trying to say what he thought RFK Jr. wanted to hear, so as to win his endorsement, which we know that Trump is very good at doing. He channels what he says depending on who he’s talking to, which is what a lot of politicians do. He just tends to do it more obviously than many others.

Kenen: Julie, we heard this at the tail end of the 2016 campaign. He made a few comments, exactly, very, very similar to this, the size of a horse vaccine and you see the changes — there’s too many, too many vaccines, too large doses. We heard this briefly in the late 2016, and we heard it at the very — I no longer remember whether it was during transition in 2016 or whether it was early in 2017 when he was in the White House — but we heard a little bit of this then, too. And he had a meeting with RFK then. And RFK said that Trump was talking about maybe setting up a commission and RFK at one point said that Trump had asked him to head the commission. We don’t think that was necessarily the case.

First of all, there was no commission. The White House never confirmed that they had asked RFK to lead it. Who knows who said what in a closed room, or who heard what or what they wanted to hear; we don’t know. But we heard this whole episode, including Trump and RFK, at approximately the beginning of 2017, and it did go away. Covid didn’t happen right away; covid was later. There was no anti-vax commission. There was no vax commission. There was no change in vaccination policy in those early years prepandemic. And as Sarah just pointed out, Trump was incredibly pro-vaccine during the pandemic. I mean, the Operation Warp Speed was hailed by even people who didn’t like anything else about Trump. When public health liked Operation Warp Speed, he got vaccines into arms fast, faster than many of us thought, right?

The difference — there were anti-vaxxers then; there have been since smallpox — but it is much more politicized and much more prominent, and in some ways it has almost replaced the ACA as your identifying health issue. If you talk to somebody about the ACA, you know what party they are, you even know where within the party they are, what wing. And that’s not 100% true of anti-vaxxers. There are anti-vaxxers on both sides, but the politicization has been on the Republican-medical-libertarian side, that you-can’t-tell-me-what-to-do-it’s-my-body side. It is much more part of his base and a more intense, visible, and vocal part of his base. So, it’s the same comments, or very similar comments, to the same person in a different political context.

Rovner: Well, I think it’s safe to say that abortion does remain the most potent political health issue of the year, and there was lots of state-based abortion election news this week. As we’ve been discussing all year, as many as a dozen states will have abortion questions on the ballot for voters this November, but not without a fight. Florida has just added an addendum to its ballot measures, suggesting that if passed, it could cost the state money. And in Arkansas and Montana, there are now legal fights over which signatures should or shouldn’t be counted in getting some of those questions to the ballot.

Alice, in every state that’s voted on abortion since Dobbs [v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization], the abortion-right side has prevailed. Is the strategy here to try to prevent people from voting in the first place?

Ollstein: Oh, yes. I wrote a story about this in January. It’s been true for a while, and it’s been true in the states that already had their votes, too. There were efforts in Ohio to make a vote harder or to block it entirely. There were efforts in Michigan to do so. And even the same tactics are being repeated. And so the fight over the cost estimate in Florida, which is usually just a very boring, bureaucratic, routine thing, has become this political fight. And that also happened in Missouri. So, we’re seeing these trends and patterns and basically any aspect of this process that can be mobilized to become a fight between conservative state officials and these groups that are attempting to get these measures on the ballot, it has been. And so Arizona is also having a fight over the language that is going to go in the voter guide that goes out to everybody. So there’s a fight going on there that’s going to go to court next week about whether it says fetus or unborn child. So, all of these little aspects of it, there’s going to be more lawsuits over signature, validation, and so it’s going to be a knockdown, drag-out fight to the end.

It’s been really interesting to see that conservative efforts to mount these so-called decline-to-sign campaigns, where they go out and try to just convince people not to sign the petition — those have completely failed, even in states that haven’t gotten the kind of national support and funding that Florida and Nevada and some of these states have. Even those places have met their signature goals and so they’re now moving to this next phase of the fight, which is these legal and bureaucratic challenges.

Rovner: This is going to play out, I suspect, right, almost until the last minute, in terms of getting some of these on the ballot.

Meanwhile, here on Capitol Hill, there’s an effort underway by some abortion rights backers to repeal the 1873 Comstock Act, which some anti-abortion activists say could be used to establish a national abortion ban. On the one hand, repealing the law would take away that possibility. On the other hand, suggesting that it needs to be repealed undercuts the Biden administration’s contention that the law is currently unenforceable. This seemed to be a pretty risky proposition for abortion rights forces no matter which way they go, right?

Ollstein: Well, for a while, the theory on the abortion rights side was, oh, we shouldn’t draw attention to Comstock because we don’t want to give the right the idea of using it to make a backdoor abortion ban. But that doesn’t really hold water anymore because they clearly know about it and they clearly have the idea already and are open about their desire to use it in documents like Project 2025, in letters from lawmakers urging enforcement of the Comstock Act. And so the whole …

Rovner: In concurring opinions in Supreme Court cases.

Ollstein: … Exactly, exactly. In legal filings in Supreme Court cases from the plaintiffs. So clearly, the whole “don’t give the right the idea thing” is not really the strategy anymore; the right already has the idea. And so now I think it’s more like you said, about undercutting the legal argument that it is not enforceable anyway. But those who do advocate for its repeal say, “Why wouldn’t we take this tool out of contention?” But this is sort of a philosophical fight because they don’t have the votes to repeal it anyway.

Rovner: Yeah, though I think the idea is if you bring it up you put Republicans on the record, as …

Ollstein: Sure, but they’ve been doing that on so many things. I mean, they’ve been doing that on IVF [in vitro fertilization], they’ve been doing that on contraception, they’ve been doing that on abortion, they’ve been doing it on the right to travel for an abortion. They’ve been doing it over and over and over and I don’t see a lot of evidence that it’s making a big impact in the election. I could be wrong, but I think that’s the current state of things.

Rovner: Yeah, I’m with you on that one.

All right, well, while we are all busy living our lives and talking about politics, covid is making its now annual summer comeback. President Biden is currently quarantining at his beach house in Rehoboth after testing positive. HHS [Department of Health and Human Services] Secretary Xavier Becerra was diagnosed earlier this week. And wastewater testing shows covid levels are “very high” in seven states, including big ones like Florida, Texas, and California. Sarah, do we just not care anymore? Is this just not news?

Karlin-Smith: Probably, it depends on who you ask, right? But I think obviously with Biden getting covid, it’s going to get more attention again. I think that a lot of health officials, including in the Biden administration, spent a lot of time trying to maybe optimistically hope that covid was going to become a seasonal struggle, much like flu, where we really sort of know a more defined risk period in the winter and that helps us manage it a bit. And always sort of seemed a little bit more optimistic than reality. And I think recently I’ve listened to some CDC [Centers for Disease Control and Prevention] meetings and stuff where — it’s not really, it’s a little bit subtle — but I think they’re finally kind of coming around to, oh wait, actually this is something where we probably are going to have these two peaks every year. They’re sort of year-round risk. But there hasn’t been a ton done to actually think through, OK, what does that mean for how we handle it?

In this country, every year they have been approving a second vaccine for the people most at risk, although uptake of that is incredibly low. So it does seem like it’s become a little bit of a neglected public health crisis. And certainly in the news sometimes when something kind of stays at this sort of constant level of problem, but nothing changes, it can sometimes, I think, be harder for news outlets to figure out how to draw attention to it.

Rovner: It does seem like, I mean, most of the prominent people who have been getting it have been getting mild cases. I imagine that that sort of has something to do … We’re not seeing … even Biden, who’s as we all know, 81, is quarantining at his beach house, so.

Karlin-Smith: Right, I mean, if you kind of stay up to date, as the terminology is, on your vaccinations, you don’t have a lot of high-risk conditions, if you are in certain at-risk groups you get Paxlovid. For the most part a lot of people are doing well. But that said, I think, I’m afraid to say the numbers, but if you look up the amount of deaths per week and so forth, it’s still quite high. We’re still losing — again, more people are still dying from covid every year, quite a few more than from the flu. I mean, one thing I think people have also pointed out is when new babies are born, you can’t get vaccinated until you’re 6 months. The under-6-month population has been impacted quite a bit again. So, it is that tension. And we saw it with the flu before covid, which is every year flu is actually a very big issue in the U.S. and the public health world for hospitals and stuff but the U.S. never quite put enough maybe attention or pressure to figure out how to actually change that dynamic and get better flu vaccine uptake and so forth.

Kenen: And the intense heat makes it, I mean — covid is much, much, much, much more transmissible inside than outside. And the intense heat — we’re not sitting around enjoying warm weather, we’re inside hiding from sweltering weather. We’re all in Washington or the Washington area, and it’s been hot with a capital H for weeks here, weeks. So people are inside. They can’t even be outside in the evening, it’s still hot. So we think of winter as being the indoors time in most of the country, and summer sort of the indoors time in only certain states. But right now we are in more transmissible environments for covid and …

Rovner: Meanwhile, while we’re all trying to ignore covid, we have bird flu that seems to be getting more and more serious, although people seem to just not want to think about it. We’re looking at obviously in many states bird flu spreading to dairy cows and therefore spreading to dairy workers. Sarah, we don’t really even know how big this problem is, right? Because we’re not really looking for it?

Karlin-Smith: That seems to be one of the biggest concerns of people in the public health-virology community who are criticizing the current response right now, is just we’re not testing enough, both in terms of animal populations that could be impacted and then the people that work or live closely by these animal populations, to figure out how this virus is spreading, how many people are actually impacted. Is the genetics of the virus changing? And the problem of course then is, if you don’t do this tracking, there’s a sense that we can get ourselves in a situation where it’s too late. By the time we realize something is wrong, it’s going to already be a very dangerous situation.

Rovner: Yeah, I mean, before covid, the big concern about a pandemic was bird flu. And was bird flu jumping from birds to other animals to humans, which is exactly what we’re seeing even though we’re not seeing a ton of it yet.

Kenen: We’re not seeing a ton of it, and in its current form, to the best of our knowledge, it’s not that dangerous. The fear is the more species it’s in and the more people it’s in, the more opportunities it has to become more dangerous. So, just because people have not become seriously ill, which is great, but it doesn’t mean it stays great, we just don’t — Sarah knows more about this than I do, but the flu virus mutates very easily. It combines with other flu viruses. That’s why you hear about Type A and Type B and all that. I mean, it’s not a stable virus and that is not, I’m not sure if stable is the right …

Rovner: It’s why we need a different flu shot every year.

Kenen: Right, and the flu shots we have, bird flu is different.

Rovner: Well, we will continue to watch that.

Kenen: Sarah can correct anything I just got wrong. But I think the gist was right, right?

Rovner: Sarah is nodding.

All right, well finally, one follow up from last week in the wake of the report from the Federal Trade Commission on self-dealing by pharmacy benefits managers: We get a piece from The Wall Street Journal this week [“Mail-Order Drugs Were Supposed To Keep Costs Down. It’s Doing the Opposite.”] documenting how much more mail-order pharmacies, particularly mail-order pharmacies owned by said PBMs [pharmacy benefit managers] are charging. Quoting from the story, “Branded drugs filled by mail were marked up on average three to six times higher than the cost of medicines dispensed by chain and grocery-store pharmacies, and roughly 35 times higher than those filled by independent pharmacies.” That’s according to the study commissioned by the Washington State Pharmacy Association. It’s not been a great month for the PBM industry. Sarah, I’m going to ask you what I asked the panel last week: Is Congress finally ready to do something?

Karlin-Smith: It seemed like Congress has finally been ready to do something for a while. Certainly, both sides have passed legislation and committees and so forth, and it’s been pretty bipartisan. So we’ll see. I think some of it costs — I forget if some of it costs a little money — but some of it does save. And that’s always an issue. And we know that Congress is just not very good at passing stand-alone bills on particular topics, so I think the key times will be to look at when we get to any big end-of-year funding deals and that sort of thing, depending on all the dynamics with the election and the lame duck, but …

Rovner: I mean, this has been so bipartisan. I mean, there’s bipartisan irritation in both houses, in both parties.

Karlin-Smith: Right, and I think the antitrust sort of element of this with PBMs kind of appeals to the Republican side of the aisle quite a bit. And that’s why there’s always been a bit of bipartisan interest. And the question becomes: PBMs sort of fill the role that in other countries government price negotiators fill. And that’s not particularly popular in the U.S., particularly on the Republican side of the aisle. And so most of the legislation that is pending, I think, will maybe hopefully get us to some transparency solutions, tweak some things around the edges, but it’s not really going to solve the crisis. It’s going to be, I mean, a very [Washington,] D.C. health policy move, which is kind of, take some incremental steps that might eventually move us down to later reforms, but it’s going to be slow-moving, whatever happens. So, PBMs are going to be in the spotlight for probably a while longer.

Rovner: Yes, which popular issue moves slower: drug prices or gun control?

All right, well finally this week the health policy community has lost another giant. Gail Wilensky, who ran Medicare and Medicaid under the first President Bush, and the advisory group MedPAC for many years after that, died of cancer last week at age 81. Gail managed to be both polite and outspoken at the same time. A Republican economist who worked with and disagreed with both Democrats and Republicans, and who, I think it’s fair to say, was respected by just about everyone who ever dealt with her. She taught me, and lots of others, a large chunk of what I know about health policy. She will be very much missed. Joanne, I guess you worked with her probably as long as I did.

Kenen: Yeah, I’m the one who told you she had died, right?

Rovner: That’s true.

Kenen: I think that when I heard her speak in a professional setting in the last few years, she talked to her about herself not as a Republican health economist, but as a free market health economist. She was very well respected and very well liked, but she also ended up being a person without a party. But she was a fixture and she was a nice person.

Rovner: And she wasn’t afraid to say when she was the head of MedPAC she made a lot of people angry. She made a lot of Republicans angry in some of those sort of positions that she took. She basically called it as she saw it and let the chips fall.

Kenen: And Julie, she went to Michigan, right?

Rovner: Yes, and she went to Michigan. That’s true. A fellow Michigan Wolverine. All right, well, that is the news for this week. Now we will play my interview with Renuka Rayasam, and then we will come back and do our extra credits.

I am pleased to welcome to the podcast my KFF Health News colleague Renuka Rayasam, who reported and wrote the latest KFF Health News-NPR “Bill of the Month.” It’s about what should have been a simple visit to an urgent care center but of course turned out to be anything but. Renu, thanks for joining us.

Renuka Rayasam: Thanks for having me.

Rovner: So, tell us about this month’s patient, who he is, and what kind of medical problem he had.

Rayasam: Sure, let me tell you about the patient in this month’s “Bill of the Month.” His name is Tim Chong. He’s a Dallas man, and last December he felt severe stomach pain and he didn’t know what it was from. And he thought at first maybe he’d had some food poisoning. But the pain didn’t subside and he thought, OK, I don’t want to have to pay an ER bill, so let me go to an urgent care. And he opted to visit Parkland Health’s Urgent Care Emergency Center, where he learned he had a kidney stone and was told to go home and that it would pass on its own.

Rovner: Now, we’re told all the time exactly what he was told, that if we have a health problem that needs immediate attention but probably not a hospital-level emergency, we should go to an urgent care center rather than a hospital emergency room. And most insurers encourage you to do this; they give you a big incentive by charging a far smaller copay for urgent care. So, that’s what he tried to do, right?

Rayasam: That’s what he tried to do, at least that’s what he thought he was doing. Like I said, this is a facility, it’s called Urgent Care Emergency Center. He told me that he walked in, he thought he was at an urgent care, he got checked out, was told it was a kidney stone. He actually went back five days later because his stomach pain worsened and didn’t get better. And it wasn’t until he got the bills the following month that he realized he was actually at an emergency center and not an urgent care center. His bill was $500 for each visit, not $50 for each visit as he had anticipated.

Rovner: And no one told him when he went there?

Rayasam: He said no one told him. And we reached out to Parkland Health and they said, “Well, we have notices all over the place. We label it very clearly: This is an emergency care center, you may be charged emergency care fees,” but they also sent me a picture of some of those notices and those are notices that are buried among a lot of different notices on walls. Plus, this is a person who is suffering from severe stomach pain. He was really not in a position to read those disclosures. He went by what the front desk staff did or didn’t tell him and what the name of the facility was.

Rovner: I was going to say, there was a sign that said “Urgent Care,” right?

Rayasam: Right, absolutely. Urgent Care Emergency Center, right? And so when we reached out to Parkland, they said, “Hey, we are clearly labeled as an emergency center. We’re an extension of the main emergency room.” And that’s the other thing you have to remember about this case, which is that this is the person who knew Parkland’s facility. He knew they had a separate emergency room center and he said, “I didn’t go into that building. I didn’t go into the building that’s labeled emergency room. I run into this building labeled Urgent Care Emergency Center.” Parkland says, hey, this is an extension of their main emergency room. This is where they send lower-level emergency cases, but obviously it’s a really confusing name and a really confusing setup.

Rovner: Yeah, absolutely. So, how did this all turn out? Medically, he was OK eventually, right?

Rayasam: Medically he was OK eventually. Eventually the stone did pass. And it wasn’t until he got these bills that he kind of knew what happened. When he first got the bills, he thought, well, obviously there’s some mistake. He talked to his insurer. His insurer, BlueCross and BlueShield of Texas, told him that Parkland had billed these visits using emergency room codes and he thought, wait a second, why are they using emergency room codes? I didn’t go into the emergency room. And that’s when Parkland told him, “Hey, you actually did go into an emergency room. Sorry for your confusion. You still owe us $1,000 total.” He paid part of the bills. He was trying to challenge the bills and he reached out to us at “Bill of the Month,” but eventually his bill got sent to collection and Parkland’s sort of standing by their decision to charge him $500 for each visit.

Rovner: So he basically still owes $1,000?

Rayasam: Yes, that’s right.

Rovner: So what’s the takeaway here? This feels like the ultimate bait and switch. How do you possibly make sure that a facility that says urgent care on the door isn’t actually a hospital emergency room?

Rayasam: That’s a great question. When it comes to the American medical system, unfortunately patients still have to do a lot of self-triage. One expert I’ve talked to said it’s still up to the patients to walk through the right door. Regulators have done a little bit, in Texas in particular, of making sure these facilities, these freestanding emergency room centers, as they’re called — and this one is hospital-owned, so the name is confusin, but it’s technically a freestanding emergency center, so it did have the name emergency in the name of the facility, and I think that that’s required in Texas — but I’ve talked to others who’ve said, you should ban the term urgent care from a facility that’s not urgent care. Because this is a concept that’s very familiar to most Americans. Urgent care has been around for decades; you have an idea of what an urgent care is.

And when you look at this place on its website, it’s called Urgent Care Emergency Center, it’s sort of advertised as a separate clinic within Parkland structure. It’s closed on nights, it’s closed on Sundays. The list of things they say they treat very much resembles an urgent care. So, this patient’s confusion I think is very, very understandable and he’s certainly not the only one that’s had that confusion at this facility. Regulators could ban the term urgent care for facilities that bill like emergency rooms. But until that happens it’s up to the patients to call, to check, and to ask about billing when they show up, which isn’t always easy to do when you’re suffering from severe stomach pain.

Rovner: Another thing for patients to watch out for.

Rayasam: Yes, absolutely, and worry about.

Rovner: Yes, Renuka Rayasam, thank you so much for joining.

Rayasam: Thank you, Julie.

Rovner: OK, we are back. It’s time for our extra credit segment. That’s when we each recommend a story we read this week we think you should read, too. As always, don’t worry if you miss it. We will post the links on the podcast page at kffhealthnews.org and in our show notes on your phone or other mobile device.

Sarah, why don’t you go first this week?

Karlin-Smith: Sure, I looked at a New York Times piece called “Promised Cures, Tainted Cells: How Cord Blood Banks Mislead Patients.” And it’s about the often very aggressive sort of tactics of these banks to convince women to save some of the cord blood after they give birth with the promise that it may be able to help treat your child’s illness down the road. And the investigation into this found that there’s a number of problems. One is that, for the most part, the science has progressed in a way that some of what people used to maybe use some of these cells for, they now use adult stem cells. The other is these banks are just not actually storing the products properly and much of it gets contaminated so it couldn’t even be used. Or sometimes you just don’t even collect enough, I guess, of the tissue to even be able to use it.

In one instance, they documented a family that — the bank knew that the cells were contaminated and were still charging them for quite a long time. And the other thing that I actually personally found fascinated by this — because my OB-GYN actually did kind of, I feel like, push one of these companies — was that they can pay the OB-GYNs quite a hefty fee for what seems like a very small amount of work. And it’s not subject to the same sort of kickback type of regulation that there may be for other pharmaceutical/medical device interactions between doctors and parts of the biotech industry. So I found that quite fascinating as well, what the economic incentives are to push this on people.

Rovner: Yeah. One more example of capitalism and health care being uncomfortable bedfellows, Chapter 1 Million. Joanne?

Kenen: There was a fantastic piece in The Washington Post by Annie Gowan: “A Mom Struggles To Feed Her Kids After GOP States Reject Federal Funds,” which was a long headline, but it was also a long story. But it was one of those wonderful narrative stories that really put a human face on a policy decision.

The federal government has created some extra funds for childhood nutrition, childhood food, and some of the Republican governors, including in this particular family’s case, the Republican Gov. Kevin Stitt in Oklahoma, have turned down these funds. And families … So this is a single, full-time working mom. She is employed. She’s got three teenagers. They’re all athletic and active and hungry and she doesn’t have enough food for them. And particularly in the summer when they don’t get meals in school, the struggle to get enough food, she goes without meals. Her kids — one of the kids actually works in the food pantry where they get their food from. The amount of time and energy this mom spends just making sure her children get fed when there is a source of revenue that her state chose not to us: It’s a really, really good story. It’s long, but I read it all even before Julie sent it to me. I said, “I already read that one.” It’s really very good and it’s very human. And, why?

Rovner: Policy affects real people.

Kenen: This is hungry teenagers.

Rovner: It’s one of things that journalism is for.

Kenen: Right, right, and they’re also not eating real healthy food because they’re not living on grapefruits and vegetables. They’re living on starchy stuff.

Rovner: Alice?

Ollstein: I chose a good piece from ProPublica called “Texas Sends Millions to Crisis Pregnancy Centers. It’s Meant To Help Needy Families, but No One Knows if It Works.” And it is about just how little oversight there is of the budgets of taxpayer dollars that are going to these anti-abortion centers that in many cases use the majority of funding not for providing services. A lot of it goes to overhead. And so there’s a lot of fascinating details in there. These centers can bill the state a lot of money just for handing out pamphlets, for handing out supplies that were donated that they got for free. They get to charge the state for handing those out. And there’s just not a lot of evaluation of, is this serving people? Is this improving health outcomes? And I think it’s a good critical look at this as other states are moving towards adopting similar programs to what’s going on in Texas.

Rovner: Yeah, we’re seeing a lot of states put a lot of money towards some of these centers.

Well, my extra credit this week is from Time magazine. It’s called, “‘We’re Living in a Nightmare:’ Inside the Health Crisis of a Texas Bitcoin Town,” by Andrew Chow. And in case we didn’t already have enough to worry about, it seems that the noise that comes from the giant server farms used to mine bitcoin can cause all manner of health problems for those in the surrounding areasm from headaches to nausea and vomiting to hypertension. At a local meeting, one resident reported that “her 8-year-old daughter was losing her hearing and fluids were leaking from her ears.”

The company that operates the bitcoin plant says it’s in the process of moving to a quieter cooling system. That’s what makes all the noise. But as cryptocurrency mining continues to grow and spread, it’s likely that other communities will be affected in the way the people of Granbury, Texas, have been.

All right. That is our show for this week. As always, if you enjoy the podcast, you can subscribe wherever you get your podcast. We’d appreciate it if you left us a review; that helps other people find us, too. Special thanks as always to our technical guru, Francis Ying, and our editor, Emmarie Huetteman. As always, you can email us your comments or questions. We’re at whatthehealth@kff.org, or you can still find me at X, I’m @jrovner. Sarah, where are you these days?

Karlin-Smith: I’m mostly on X @SarahKarlin or on some other platforms like Bluesky, at @sarahkarlin-smith.

Rovner: Alice?

Ollstein: I’m on X @AliceOllstein and on Bluesky @alicemiranda.

Rovner: Joanne?

Kenen: A little bit on X @JoanneKenen and a little bit on Threads @joannekenen1.

Rovner: We will be back in your feed next week. Until then, be healthy.

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